Yep, maganda rin na na-open to para dun sa mga nag iisip about the product.
Yung produkto kasi na to ay hindi magic beans. Importante ang disiplina, sa pagtake, sa pagpapahinga, sa pag inom ng tubig at lalong lalo na sa pagkain.
Yep, maganda rin na na-open to para dun sa mga nag iisip about the product.
Yung produkto kasi na to ay hindi magic beans. Importante ang disiplina, sa pagtake, sa pagpapahinga, sa pag inom ng tubig at lalong lalo na sa pagkain.
di pala easy gawen yan lol hehehe :P
pag 85kgs na ako baka pag isipan ko din yan hihihi
@Lazar,
I rest my case bro. You said your point, as do I. Although you clearly missed some of the ideas on my post, but I won't bother arguing about it. It's pointless.
Anyway, eto lang message ko especially for all, weigh every decision you make. Day to day, gaano man kalaki or kaliit yan, it has an impact on your future. You may not see it now, but believe me, you will SOON. I know, I have been there. I have my fair share of REGRETS especially on some of the reckless decisions I have made in the PAST, and clearly, it's HAUNTING me on the PRESENT. I'm just imparting some WISDOM so that you might not COMMIT the same STUPID mistakes I did before.
You have all the freedom in the world to DECIDE for yourself, just MAKE IT COUNT. There is more to LIFE than BODYBUILDING.
Hindi naman lahat "health and longetivity" lang ang reason sa pag pasok sa bodybuiding. In fact, pro bodybuilders at elite level (olympia caliber) are NOT healthy. Ironic right? They workout nut they are not healthy.
That's just how it goes.
Not everyone here has the same goal as you.
Not everyone wants to look like you do. Yes you are lean, but you're weight is close to a girl's weight. For you and some you look good. But not for everyone.
Some wants it bad than you do.
Some people are willing to take the risk, do everything just to have their dream physique no matter what the cost.
And it's nome of our business to stand in their way and try to persuade
Them by using our excuses and setting a limitation.
If the goal is just to look fit or be healthy, lean at +/-125lbs, of course drugs like these won't be needed.
Nothing is permanent.
Stop training, stop eating right, stop resting enough and in no time you will loose your hard earned gains. Same case with this.
@rreora - depende sa band, naglalaro sa 1.5k to 2k sa black market. If you know someone na nag cocompete, then he is the right person to contact kung gusto mo mag take ng CLEN. Lifting stats? Okay naman. Wala akong napansin na significant increase sa poundage ko. Thanks!
Gaano siya kahirap bilihin? Nag check kasi ako sa sulit.com meron nag bebenta. Siguro balikan kita sa topic na ito pag naka 3months na akong cut at di ko pa mahit yun mirror body ko.
No offense to anyone, pero parang ang dami nabuhayan bigla nung nalaman nila na hindi pala steroids ang clen, nagkaron bigla ng hope and renewed faith na may pagasa pa ang failures nila in the past. Deep inside telling themselves that I could finally see my abs without using steroids or may effective pala na fat burner. I'm not not against the use of any drugs or supplements kasi totoo naman na may kanya kanya tayong goal. I just feel sorry for those na months pa lang nagbubuhat, last month lang nag google about dieting , macros and myfitnesspal and very motivated to look like a cover model and impress the ladies tapos ayan na, shet CLEN might be the answer.. c'mon man....
Isantabi na natin ang personal goals, possible risk, own decisions, ang simpleng tanong lang bago gumamit ng kahit anong supps/drugs e DO YOU NEED IT? kung alam mo na you have done your share of hardwork and effort then go for it, pero kung alam mo naman na nagmamadali ka lang and you just want it, pagisipan mo muna baka YOU NEED SOMETHING ELSE (patience and more effort, I guess)
@badass_vinch - thanks chief. Idagdag ko na din, baka akala ng iba pag nag take ka ng clen eh instant abs na agad? Naku...kung ganun ang mindset, magsasayang lang kayo ng pera.
Good point.
Actually yan yung gusto ko idagdag pa kagabi kaso nakatulog na ko hehe.
Yung term na "easy way out" actually magiging totoo for certain people.
Yung mga kasisimula pa lang, ni hindi pa nga enough yung knowledge pag dating sa basic training and nutrition. I'm saying yung mga ilang buwn pa lang nagbubuhat na halos di pa makitaan ng gains e sabak agad sa ganito. Even supplements nga dinidiscourage sa una at sinusuggest na mag rely muna sa whole foods at kumain ng tama.
Kasi chances are, kapag may supplement na dun na aasa.
Para bang "magic beans".
I say give it at least 2yrs. Why?
First 6-8 months jan ka pa lang mag sisimula mag acquire ng knowledge about training and nutrition (even supplementation).
Succeeding months, trial and error what works best for you.
This year will also test your consistency. Baka gusto mo easy way out tapos hindi ka pala consistent, edi wala din.
To be honest consistency is one of the hardest part sa bodybuilding.
Kung wala kang will, dedication, at motivation hindi ka tatagal.
2nd year will test your persistency and resiliency.
If you passed, had a decent amount of gains, then from there pwede ka na mag assess. Is your actions enough? Are giving your best?
What's next? Do you want to give more? Do whatever it takes?
Flat DB Press
40(2)x5x6
(Focused on speed, tight grip and squeeze)
Incline DB Press
50(2)x12
55(2)x12
60(2)x12
Hammer Strength Chest Press
100x12
110x10
120x8
Incline DB Flyes
20(2)x12x3
EZ Bar Preacher Curl
30x15
40x12
50x12
DB Concentration Curl
20x12x2
Spide Curls
15x12x2
One-Hand DB Triceps Extension
15x12
20x12x2
Straight-Bar Triceps Pulldown
80x12
90x12
100x12
DB Kickback
15x15
15x12
End.
[size=medium]Week 1 - RECAP[/size]
Started the program last Wednesday and it's very fascinating (for me). The combination of heavy sets and hypertrophy sets are amazing. Lovin' the pumps and this program brings me back on nailing the compound lifts.
Skipped 1 rest day and the hypertrophy day for lower body.
Lifting stats (all in lbs):
Squats - 170x3
Stiff-Legged Deadlift - 120x8
Barbell Rows - 140x5
DB Rows - 70x12
Incline DB Press - 60x12
Flat DB Press - 55x5
DB Shoulder Press - 70(2)x6
Incline DB Fly
15(2)x12
15(2)x15
20(2)x12
25(2)x12
30(2)x10
Dips (again)
BWx8
BWx10
BWx12
Cable Crossover
30(2)x12
40(2)x12
50(2)x12
Barbell Curls
50x10x2
60x10x2
70x5
DB Hammer Curls
25(2)x12x3
Cable Curls
60x12
70x10
80x10
90x10
100x6
V-Bar Push Down
50x12
60x12
70x12
Straight Bar Triceps Pulldown
50x12
60x12
70x12
[size=medium]Week 2 - RECAP[/size]
New PRs again.
Skipped 1 rest day and the hypertrophy day for lower body.
Lifting stats (all in lbs):
Squats - from 170x3 to 180x3 Stiff-Legged Deadlift - from 120x8 to 150x8 Barbell Rows - from 140x5 to 150x5 DB Rows - from 70x12 to 75x8 Incline DB Press - 60x12 (same) used barbell this week Flat Barbell Bench Press - 200x4 Flat DB Press - 55x5 (same) used barbell this week DB Shoulder Press - from 70(2)x6 to 75(2)x3
Week 2 - END.[/align]I'll post progress pics with same position every 2 weeks for strict monitoring.
Here is my current body structure (End of week 2 - PHAT) :
@bokeh - Thank you. For me, puede naman to sa mga kaka simula pa lang. Basta you'll follow the principles. Isa pa yung word na "good" sa isang program ay naka depende na sa taong gagamit nung program baguhan man o datihan.
Review? hmmm ... when it comes to str ..it's too early to tell na okay siya kasi 2 weeks pa lang ako..same with physique. Wala pang malaking pag babago sa katawan ko. Medyo lumabo pa nga yung mid section.
Siguro pag naka 4 weeks na ako, balikan kita sa tanong mo.
nice gains sir! kasing payat lang pala kita dun sa pic mo nung nasa beach sa 1st collage, or mas payat pa ako 43kgs lang kasi ako dati 5'6 way back 2011
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Yung produkto kasi na to ay hindi magic beans. Importante ang disiplina, sa pagtake, sa pagpapahinga, sa pag inom ng tubig at lalong lalo na sa pagkain.
di pala easy gawen yan lol hehehe :P
pag 85kgs na ako baka pag isipan ko din yan hihihi
I rest my case bro. You said your point, as do I. Although you clearly missed some of the ideas on my post, but I won't bother arguing about it. It's pointless.
Anyway, eto lang message ko especially for all, weigh every decision you make. Day to day, gaano man kalaki or kaliit yan, it has an impact on your future. You may not see it now, but believe me, you will SOON. I know, I have been there. I have my fair share of REGRETS especially on some of the reckless decisions I have made in the PAST, and clearly, it's HAUNTING me on the PRESENT. I'm just imparting some WISDOM so that you might not COMMIT the same STUPID mistakes I did before.
You have all the freedom in the world to DECIDE for yourself, just MAKE IT COUNT. There is more to LIFE than BODYBUILDING.
Ayt! Let's end this.
You have all the freedom in the world to DECIDE for yourself, just MAKE IT COUNT. There is more to LIFE than BODYBUILDING -
+1 on that, a line to remember.
That's just how it goes.
Not everyone here has the same goal as you.
Not everyone wants to look like you do. Yes you are lean, but you're weight is close to a girl's weight. For you and some you look good. But not for everyone.
Some wants it bad than you do.
Some people are willing to take the risk, do everything just to have their dream physique no matter what the cost.
And it's nome of our business to stand in their way and try to persuade
Them by using our excuses and setting a limitation.
If the goal is just to look fit or be healthy, lean at +/-125lbs, of course drugs like these won't be needed.
Nothing is permanent.
Stop training, stop eating right, stop resting enough and in no time you will loose your hard earned gains. Same case with this.
Gaano siya kahirap bilihin? Nag check kasi ako sa sulit.com meron nag bebenta. Siguro balikan kita sa topic na ito pag naka 3months na akong cut at di ko pa mahit yun mirror body ko.
Isantabi na natin ang personal goals, possible risk, own decisions, ang simpleng tanong lang bago gumamit ng kahit anong supps/drugs e DO YOU NEED IT? kung alam mo na you have done your share of hardwork and effort then go for it, pero kung alam mo naman na nagmamadali ka lang and you just want it, pagisipan mo muna baka YOU NEED SOMETHING ELSE (patience and more effort, I guess)
[size=medium]PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 3: Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy Day[/size]
Skipped Rest day.
[size=medium]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx12 / BWx15
BWx10 / BWx12
BWx10 / BWx12
[size=medium]MAIN[/size]
Barbell Rows
100x5x6
(Focused on power and speed)
Rack Chins
BWx12x3
Seated Cable Rows
130x12
140x12
140x12
Dumbbell Rows
65x12
70x12
Close-Grip Pulldown
100x20x2
Seated DB Shoulder Press
WARM-UP
30(2)x15
40(2)x12
50(2)x12
60(2)x10
70(2)x6
75(2)x3 - New PR
Side Lateral Raises
15(2)x20x2
15(2)x15
Cable Upright Rows superset with Straight-Arm Cable Pushdown
50x12 / 50x12
60x12 / 60x12
70x12 / 70x12
[size=medium]NOTE:[/size]
New PR on shoulder press! Yehey! LOL ...
Good point.
Actually yan yung gusto ko idagdag pa kagabi kaso nakatulog na ko hehe.
Yung term na "easy way out" actually magiging totoo for certain people.
Yung mga kasisimula pa lang, ni hindi pa nga enough yung knowledge pag dating sa basic training and nutrition. I'm saying yung mga ilang buwn pa lang nagbubuhat na halos di pa makitaan ng gains e sabak agad sa ganito. Even supplements nga dinidiscourage sa una at sinusuggest na mag rely muna sa whole foods at kumain ng tama.
Kasi chances are, kapag may supplement na dun na aasa.
Para bang "magic beans".
I say give it at least 2yrs. Why?
First 6-8 months jan ka pa lang mag sisimula mag acquire ng knowledge about training and nutrition (even supplementation).
Succeeding months, trial and error what works best for you.
This year will also test your consistency. Baka gusto mo easy way out tapos hindi ka pala consistent, edi wala din.
To be honest consistency is one of the hardest part sa bodybuilding.
Kung wala kang will, dedication, at motivation hindi ka tatagal.
2nd year will test your persistency and resiliency.
If you passed, had a decent amount of gains, then from there pwede ka na mag assess. Is your actions enough? Are giving your best?
What's next? Do you want to give more? Do whatever it takes?
[size=medium]PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 4: Chest and Arms Hypertrophy Day[/size]
Skipped Lower Body Hypertrophy Day.
Listen to your body. Masakit pa talaga si Legs at kapos na sa araw para sa week na to.
[size=medium]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx10 / BWx15
BWx10 / BWx12
BWx10 / BWx12
[size=medium]MAIN[/size]
Flat DB Press
40(2)x5x6
(Focused on speed, tight grip and squeeze)
Incline DB Press
50(2)x12
55(2)x12
60(2)x12
Hammer Strength Chest Press
100x12
110x10
120x8
Incline DB Flyes
20(2)x12x3
EZ Bar Preacher Curl
30x15
40x12
50x12
DB Concentration Curl
20x12x2
Spide Curls
15x12x2
One-Hand DB Triceps Extension
15x12
20x12x2
Straight-Bar Triceps Pulldown
80x12
90x12
100x12
DB Kickback
15x15
15x12
End.
[size=medium]Week 1 - RECAP[/size]
Started the program last Wednesday and it's very fascinating (for me). The combination of heavy sets and hypertrophy sets are amazing. Lovin' the pumps and this program brings me back on nailing the compound lifts.
Skipped 1 rest day and the hypertrophy day for lower body.
Lifting stats (all in lbs):
Squats - 170x3
Stiff-Legged Deadlift - 120x8
Barbell Rows - 140x5
DB Rows - 70x12
Incline DB Press - 60x12
Flat DB Press - 55x5
DB Shoulder Press - 70(2)x6
Week 1 - END.[/align]
[size=medium]REST - BUT TAKE NO DAYS OFF MODE[/size]
Morning Cardio
5:30 - 6:30
-Run
-Walk
-BW Squats
End.[/align]
[size=medium]REST - TOTAL REST[/size]
Long sleep
Re-feed
Ready to start my week 2 tomorrow.
End.[/align]
[size=medium]WEEK 2
PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 5 Upper Body Power Day[/size]
[size=medium]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx10 / BWx12- 3 sets
Barbell Rows 70x15x2
[size=medium]MAIN[/size]
Barbell Rows
130x5
140x5
150x5
Weighted Pull-ups
BW+15 lbs x 8
BW+15 lbs x 8
Hammer Strength Rows
75(2)x12
100(2)x12
110(2)x10
Flat Barbell Bench Press
140x5
150x5
160x5
Machine Dips
200x12
220x12
250x12
Shoulder Press
70(2)x10
70(2)x5 - failed
55(2)x8
45(2)x8
EZ Bar Curls
50x10x3
Cable Overhead Tricep Extension
50x12x3
End.[/align]
[size=medium]PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 6 Lower Body Power Day[/size]
[size=medium]WARM-UP[/size]
Stationary Bike 10 minutes
BW Squats 15x2
Squats 60x12x2
[size=medium]MAIN[/size]
Squats
140x5
160x5
180x3 - PR
Hack Squats
120x12
140x12
Leg Extensions
100x12x2
Stiff-Legged Deadlift
120x8
140x8
150x8
Lying Leg Curls
100x12x2
(15 seconds rest between sets)
Standing Calf Raise
200x12x5
(30 seconds rest between sets)
End.[/align]
[size=medium]PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 7 Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy Day[/size]
[size=medium]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx10 / BWx12- 3 sets
Barbell Rows
110x6
110x7
110x8
110x9
110x10
110x11
(70% of my current max, focused on speed)
Hammer Strength Rows
100(2)x12
110(2)x12
120(2)x12
Seated Cable Rows
130x12
140x12
150x10
DB Rows
70x12
75x8 - PR
Close Grip Pulldowns
100x10
110x8
120x8
DB Shoulder Press
50(2)x12
55(2)x6
60(2)x6
70(2)x5
75(2)x6 - 3 na lang yung sakin dito, yung 3 sa spotter na. LOL
Side Lateral Raises
15(2)x12x2
Plate Front Raises
25x12x2
Pull-ups
BWx15 - rest> hanging on bars
End.[/align]
[size=small]REST[/size]
- more than 8 hours of sleep
- busog-lusog sa kain
Ciao.
[/align]
[size=medium]PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 8: Chest and Arms Hypertrophy Day[/size]
End of Week 2
[size=small]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx10 / BWx12- 3 sets
Flat Barbell Bench Press
120x6
120x6
120x7
120x7
120x8
120x8
(focused on speed and explosiveness)
200x4 - PR
(my mood is telling me to do this and yeah! another new PR)
Incline Bench Press (machine)
180x10
200x6
230x5
180x4
150x8
130x8
100x10
Incline DB Fly
15(2)x12
15(2)x15
20(2)x12
25(2)x12
30(2)x10
Dips (again)
BWx8
BWx10
BWx12
Cable Crossover
30(2)x12
40(2)x12
50(2)x12
Barbell Curls
50x10x2
60x10x2
70x5
DB Hammer Curls
25(2)x12x3
Cable Curls
60x12
70x10
80x10
90x10
100x6
V-Bar Push Down
50x12
60x12
70x12
Straight Bar Triceps Pulldown
50x12
60x12
70x12
[size=medium]Week 2 - RECAP[/size]
New PRs again.
Skipped 1 rest day and the hypertrophy day for lower body.
Lifting stats (all in lbs):
Squats - from 170x3 to 180x3
Stiff-Legged Deadlift - from 120x8 to 150x8
Barbell Rows - from 140x5 to 150x5
DB Rows - from 70x12 to 75x8
Incline DB Press - 60x12 (same) used barbell this week
Flat Barbell Bench Press - 200x4
Flat DB Press - 55x5 (same) used barbell this week
DB Shoulder Press - from 70(2)x6 to 75(2)x3
Week 2 - END.[/align]I'll post progress pics with same position every 2 weeks for strict monitoring.
Here is my current body structure (End of week 2 - PHAT) :
Is PHAT good for newbies like me? Im considering this as my next program after my 3rd cycle of ICF.
Ano review mo sa PHAT? Kamusta ang progress mo compared sa progress mo dati sa ibang program?
Review? hmmm ... when it comes to str ..it's too early to tell na okay siya kasi 2 weeks pa lang ako..same with physique. Wala pang malaking pag babago sa katawan ko. Medyo lumabo pa nga yung mid section.
Siguro pag naka 4 weeks na ako, balikan kita sa tanong mo.
Thanks!
Kaso kapag gagawin ko to, aalisin ko yung pull ups hehe.
@bokeh - assisted na lang siguro.[align=center][size=medium]082514
PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 9: Upper Body Power Day[/size]
[size=small]Week 3[/size]
[size=small]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx10 / BWx12- 3 sets
[size=small]MAIN[/size]
Barbell Rows
WU
70x15
70x12
140x5
150x5
160x5
Weighted/BW Pull-ups
BWx5
BW+15 lbs x5
BW+15 lbs x5
BWx5
BWx5
Hammer Strength Rows
110(2)x12
120(2)x12
130(2)x10
Flat Barbell Bench Press
150x5
160x5
170x5
Decline Barbell Bench Press
100x12
130x12
150x12
Seated DB Shoulder Press
40(2)x12
50(2)x12
60(2)x8
Arnold Press
20(2)x12
25(2)x12
30(2)x12
Barbell Curls
50x12
50x10x2
Triceps Pulldown50x12
60x12
70x12
End.
[/align]
PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 10 Lower Body Power Day[/size]
[size=small]Warm-up[/size]
Squats
25x15x2
75x12x2
[size=medium]MAIN[/size]
Barbell Squats
145x5
155x5
165x5
175x3
185x2
Hack Squats
120x12
140x12
150x12
Leg Extension
100x12
105x12
110x12
SLDL
130x8
140x8
150x8
Lying Leg Curl Machine
180x10
200x10
Standing Calf Raise
200x12
200x12
230x12
250x12
250x12
Pull-ups
BWx10
DB Lunges
20(2)x10x2
End.
[/align]
PHAT: Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training
Day 11 Back and Shoulders Hypertrophy Day[/size]
[size=small]WARM-UP[/size]
Pull-ups superset with Dips
BWx10 / BWx12 3 sets (non-stop, lakad lang pahinga)
[size=small]MAIN[/size]
Barbell Rows
120x7
120x8
120x9
120x10
120x11
120x12
(approx 70% of current max, focused on speed)
Lat Pulldowns
110x10
120x10
130x8
140x8
150x8
Seated Cable Rows
130x12
140x10
150x10
DB Rows
70x10
70x10
75x10
Close-Grip Pulldowns
100x10x2
Straight-Arm Cable Pushdown
60x12
70x12
80x12
Seated DB Shoulder Press
50(2)x10x3
Arnold Press
20(2)x12
25(2)x12
30(2)x12
Front DB Raise
15(2)x12x3
Side Lateral Raises
15(2)x12x3
End.[/align]