What is the meaning of clean bulking and dirty bulking?

jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
in Diet & Nutrition
Hi mga Sirs!

Ano ba ibig sabihing ng dalawang term na 'to? Alam ko lang is bulking eh.

Thanks.
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  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
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  • 19PreDaTor6819PreDaTor68 Posts: 777
    clean bulk=gaining muscle,minimal fat gainz.
    dirty bulk=all kinds of fat gainzzz!
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    19PreDaTor68 wrote:
    clean bulk=gaining muscle,minimal fat gainz.
    dirty bulk=all kinds of fat gainzzz!

    i disagree.
  • kopikopi Posts: 690
    Clean bulk is required calories plus 500cal; dirty bulk is adding more than a thousand calories to ur diet
  • lloydi12345lloydi12345 Posts: 174
    Tama si predator sa Clean Bulking. Gain lean mass with minimal to no fat gains (Although zero fat gains is impossible). This could be achieved by taking caloric surplus of 300-500 with respect to your recommended caloric intake. This also depends on the body's reaction kaya trial & error will be involved here. Sabi DAW nila, kaya lang ng average person is to gain 0.25-0.5 lean mass every week WITH PROPER NUTRITION, REST and WORKOUT. Everything more than that could be because of fats, water, etc. Progress sa adding lifting weights mo will be so SO slow! Matagal talaga dito magdagdag ng weights. Isang matinding DISCIPLINE ang kailangan mo dito :p

    Dirty bulking naman is NOT fat gains! Exaggerated ka naman masyado. :D LOL Yes may fat gains na makukuha sa excess calories however, meron ka ring lean gains dito just like clean bulking but also WITH PROPER NUTRITION(enough protein to build muscles), REST and WORKOUT. To do dirty bulking you need to eat more than the caloric surplus an individual takes in clean bulking. Others even take thousands of caloric surplus. May mga nabasa ako but could be wrong though na mas malakas ang buhat nila with this strategy and mabilis ang pagincrease ng weight lifts nila.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    lloydi12345 wrote:
    Progress sa adding lifting weights mo will be so SO slow! Matagal talaga dito magdagdag ng weights.

    Not true.
    lloydi12345 wrote:
    May mga nabasa ako but could be wrong though na mas malakas ang buhat nila with this strategy and mabilis ang pagincrease ng weight lifts nila.

    It still depends but mainly it's because of the added leverage.
  • lloydi12345lloydi12345 Posts: 174
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    lloydi12345 wrote:
    Progress sa adding lifting weights mo will be so SO slow! Matagal talaga dito magdagdag ng weights.

    Not true.

    Oops! Naconfuse ako hehe hindi ko matandaan kung ano yung so slow parang may nabasa kasi ako dati "SLOW GAINS". Di ko matandaan kung saan nkarefer yun :) Baka sa looks? could be wrong though too.

    Thanks sa correction :)
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    So ginagawa ko ngaun is dirty bulking dahil di ko binibilang ang calories intake ko... di ko alam kung lumalagpas ako sa 500 plus sa maintenance ko.. make sense naman kasi halatang lumalaki tyan ko =)
  • rotrot78rotrot78 Posts: 1,147
    calories are calories mapaano pa yan, san man yan galing, bilangin mo ang calories ng mcdo large coke, large fries and a burger? ilan calories nyan sa laging nagbibilang? malake diba? ngayon kung isang beses ko lang kainin yan sa isang araw tataba ako hindi? sagot ko hindi.. ngayon kung 6x a day ko sya kainin, tataba ako hindi? tataba syempre.. bahala na kayo mag isip kung ano gustong paglaban, hehe
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    Tama sir, calories ay calories nga.. pero hindi po ba factor ang klase ng pagkain ang kakainin? Narinig ko kasi ung mga pagkain sa fastfood eh processed daw at ibig sabihin daw may mga chemicals para ma preserve at mahirap daw i-digest ng katawan at mahirap daw ma burn.. =) di ko alam kung maniniwala ako dito.. pero naisip ko eh calories din naman un..
  • rotrot78rotrot78 Posts: 1,147
    ^mismo calories din yun. kahit anong gawin mo, may kilala ako dito nagpapapak ng bacon eh, pero ang payat nya ngayon. hehe
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    if it's just mainly for loosing fat or gaining lean mass. food choices is somewhat irrelevant kasi nga "a calorie is a calorie", nde naman nadidistinguish ng katawan natin kung sa fast food ba galing or sa organic source nanggagaling ung kinain mo.

    However nagkakatalo lang ang food choices pagdating sa mga substances/nutrients na kasama sa food that could hamper the health nung kumakain. but then again we have these diets like keto na high fat, average protein, low carb and wala naman nairereport na lalo tumaas ang BP dahil sa mataas na fat intake that busts the "eating fat is gonna make you fat" na belief. Kung sa tingin nyo na eating fast food stalls your progress or hampers your health then you are free to opt for an alternative food source. Someone dumb enough only would classify fastfood/processed food as "dirty" food pagdating sa diet practices.

    disclaimer: i'm not defending processed/fastfood or any other inorganic food source. like ng nasabi ko sa taas kung sa tingin nyo eh unhealthy para sa inyo ang mga kinakain nyo obviuosly kelangan sya baguhin. Pero wag masyado magmataas sana ung iba na kesehoda they eat "cleaner" foods.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Bahala kayo magdebate jan, basta ako laging hugas mga kinakain ko, minsan pinakukuluan ko pa, kaya I'm pretty sure I only eat "clean" foods!

    Hahahaha
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Before eating fastfood wash them first. Voila! it's now clean! ;)
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Before eating fastfood wash them first. Voila! it's now clean! ;)

    Exactly! Finally!

    Yan mismo ginagawa ko, kaya I only eat clean! Currently doing clean bulk hahahaIt's clean! I washed it!

    #eatbulaga
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    damn i eat dirty foods kung ganun? lolz.:duh:
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Besides ang dami pang variables like metabolism, activity factor, lifestyle, stress levels, your training itself etc. na kahit pigil or controlled ang ang pag bulk mo eh pwede ka pa rin mag mukhang you went overboard because of those other factors that I've mentioned.
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Besides ang dami pang variables like metabolism, activity factor, lifestyle, stress levels, your training itself etc. na kahit pigil or controlled ang ang pag bulk mo eh pwede ka pa rin mag mukhang you went overboard because of those other factors that I've mentioned.

    Tomoh, lalo na yang mga hormones na yan (e.g. cortisol) malaki ang role nyan sa body composition.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    + Genes.
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    errr... yan ba yung nakaka "lasheng" @allen? LOL!
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    hahahaha uu
  • StannisStannis Posts: 1,377
    Clean bulk = eating healthy + MUTANT MASS!!
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    @stannis hindi na yan clean bulk, "mutant" bulk na yan LOL! :P
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    gusto kong kainin yung dirty tahong!
  • noelnoel Posts: 304
    mukhang masarap yan jettie...ano ba effect sa macro natin nyan? he he he
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    Madami! hahaha too many to mention!


    Honestly, about sa food chain foods walang kaso, basta itanong mo sa cashier kung ilang timbang nun sakto na. Ang problema mo lang dun kung adik ka sa macros eh kumpleto lagi yun at wag kakalimutan pati yung micro nutrients.

    Kasi kunwari strict no carbo diet ka ( Paleo or Primal ) or high fat diet ka ( TKD/CKD ) mahihirapan ka since ang kunwari burger eh kumpleto yan. Other than that as long as if it fits your macro gorabels.

    Wag ka lang lalagpas ng 10000000000 calories araw araw sa kinain mo at mananalanging ako na sana maging macho ka lalo.. heheh.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Grabe naman pati cashier binigyan mo ng problema sa timbang ng kakainin mo hahahaha
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    alam naman nila yun sir haha.. lalo na sa wendy's satin , strata mcdo, jollibee, kfc. Kilala na rin kasi ako dun haha una kasi tinanong ko "Ilang grams yang manok nyo na sineserve?"

    -"sir 100g po ang standard namin na sineserve"

    hahaha tapos pang habang buhay na hehehe.
  • XianHijasXianHijas Posts: 10
    jopetot wrote:
    Hi mga Sirs!

    Ano ba ibig sabihing ng dalawang term na 'to? Alam ko lang is bulking eh.

    Thanks.

    Ung iba, akala nila sa clean bulking... lahat na kinakain ay clean foods (veges, lean meat, fruits etc.)
    at sa dirty bulking naman, lahat naman kinakain ay dirty foods (chicken, burgers, fries etc.)
    pero hindi talaga ganun ang meaning...
    ung clean bulking, kumakain ka 100-300 caloric surplus sa iyong maintenance... bali gumagain ka ng weight ng mahina (1-3lbs a month), mahina ang gain ng muscle at strength mo PERO ang benefits nun ay maliit lng ang fat gains mo
    at saka ung sa dirty bulking naman... kumakain ka more than 300+ caloric surplus..
    mabilis ang pagtaas ng weight mo.. ang benefits naman nito ay mabilis tumaas strength mo sa lifts, mabilis din ang pag gain ng muscles mo.. PERO, bilis din tumaba mo..
    kaya sa aking opinyon.. I would go for clean bulking..
    kahit hina ka mag gain ng weight, atleast puros muscles.. walang taba.. para hindi kana mag cardio at diet kung sa huli ^_^
    Slow and steady wins the race ;)
    Stannis wrote:
    Clean bulk = eating healthy + MUTANT MASS!!

    I completely disagree. :)
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    XianHijas wrote:
    I would go for clean bulking..
    kahit hina ka mag gain ng weight, atleast puros muscles.. walang taba.. para hindi kana mag cardio at diet kung sa huli ^_^
    Slow and steady wins the race ;)

    I completely disagree. :)
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