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  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Need to work more on your legs. Ditch the high rep squats and lift heavy instead. Also saw the meal that you posted which is composed mostly of carbs and fiber. Where's the protein and fat source?
  • milksworthmilksworth Posts: 3,130
    cheers! sabay tayo sa pag papalaki ng legs natin! i have been watching local bb comps and lower body is what really lack with the pinoy bbers.
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Need to work more on your legs. Ditch the high rep squats and lift heavy instead. Also saw the meal that you posted which is composed mostly of carbs and fiber. Where's the protein and fat source?

    agree.. lacking of protein and fats on your daily meal plan.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    milksworth wrote:
    cheers! sabay tayo sa pag papalaki ng legs natin! i have been watching local bb comps and lower body is what really lack with the pinoy bbers.

    Yan ang nagpanalo kay Don Don sa Arnold Classic yung legs nya! Kahit yung bago ko nakilala na Mr. Philippines na si Jonatahan Casimrio, halimaw kung sa halimaw kaso pagdating legs eh naiiwan talaga.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    This what consists of meals yesterday...
    Meal 1: 3servings/sisig, 4cups/rice
    Meal 2: 2servings/bulanglang, 3cups/rice, 1serve of small tilapia
    Meal 3:2 servings of lunch-leftovers, 4cups of rice, 2 sliced small ripe apple mangoes, 2 ripe bananas

    Hydrated at least 5L water/day...
  • NiceTry333NiceTry333 Posts: 326
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Need to work more on your legs. Ditch the high rep squats and lift heavy instead.

    This what consists of meals yesterday...
    Breakfast:
    3servings/sisig, 4cups/rice
    Lunch:
    2servings/bulanglang, 3cups/rice, 1serve of small tilapia
    Dinner:
    2 servings of lunch-leftovers,
    4cups of rice, 2 sliced small ripe apple mangoes, 2 ripe bananas

    I drink at least 5L water/day...

    mukang lalaki ka nga jan :D
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Day 128 [size=x-small](May 22, 2012)[/size]
    BW: 139lbs >136lbs
    Wala masyado, usual na araw. 2hr workout. Binago format, yung tipong wala nang eklat, simple, hindi nobela, hindi Shakespeare! Yung tipong day-to-day entry nalang. Sa monthly nalang siguro yung ganun, for brief summary ng isang buwan.
    Pabago-bago weight stat, malamang tumitimbang ako kahit may laman pa tiyan. Bukas, first-day in the morning, then check ko ulet sa gabi.

    Standing Overhead Press - 50lbsx12x4
    Standing Overhead Press (Behind The Neck) - 70lbsx12x4
    Dumbbell Press - 40lbsx12x4

    Pull Downs - 70lbsx12, 80lbsx12, 80lbsx12, 80lbsx12
    Pull Downs (Behind The Neck) (Wide Grip) - 80lbsx12x4
    Pull Downs (Underhand Grip) - 80lbsx12x4
    One Arm Dumbbell Rows - 40lbsx12, 50lbsx12, 60lbsx12, 60lbsx12
    Bent-Over Barbell Rows - 40lbsx12x4
    Stiff-Legged Deadlift - 90lbsx5, 100lbsx5, 110lbsx5, 120lbsx5, 120lbsx5

    Front Plate Raise - 25lbsx12x4
    Bent-Over Dumbbell Lateral Raise - 20lbsx12, 30lbsx12, 30lbsx12, 30lbsx12
    Dumbbell Shrugs - 70lbsx12, 80lbsx12, 90lbsx12, 90lbsx12

    Diet:
    Breakfast: 2servings Ginisang corned beef, 3cups rice, 1L water
    Lunch: 1serving Ginisang corned beef, 4cups rice, 500ml water
    Workout: 2.5L water
    Dinner: 3servings small gigi, 2servings balatong, 4cups rice, 500ml water
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Again, your protein and fats are not enough to cover your daily macro's.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Kung ano po lang kasi ang sinerve, yun po ang ulam ko. Ako lang po ang nagfufund sa sarili sa bodybuilding career ko, no family support. Walang pasok, walang baon, therefore walang funds, in that case, nagtitipid. Balak ko po sana magtake nung gamot na pinainom sa akin nung dati kong trainer, kaso nagdadoubt po ako...

    BTW, ask ko lang po regarding my program? OT po ba? Any recommendations? How bout the 5x5?
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Eggs- Php4 each 4-6g of protein with good fats.
    Tuna in Can- 36g protein/can (solid in water) around Php 32-36 if I'm not mistaken.
    Monggo- 250g Php20 around 20g protein
    1 liter selecta fresh milk- 40g protein, 32g fat around Php60 each.

    My suggestions are definitely not expensive at all. Regarding your program, naguguluhan ako kung anong program yan since it's definitely not 5x5.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    My suggestions are definitely not expensive at all. Regarding your program, naguguluhan ako kung anong program yan since it's definitely not 5x5.

    5x5, triny ko po kanina doon sa mga exercises na may 5x5. Yan naman po yung 4x12, yung rinecommend sa akin nung trainer ko dati pa, at gamit ko pa rin for 5mos. Balak ko pong magshift ng regimen. Yung 5x5, iba kasi. Low reps, heavier plates...

    Binabasa ko rin po at the moment...
    http://www.eclipsegym.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    May I also add alaska high calcium non-fat milk its around 69 pesos and has around 55 grams of protein per liter. :smile: but the selecta freshmilk is defnitely a good choice i drink that too pag wala ako makita nung hi-calcium na alaska sa grocery.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Try ko pong gumawa ng panibagong diet plan, salamat po boss mighty and boss DSmallDivide for your tips...
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Eggs- Php4 each 4-6g of protein with good fats.
    Tuna in Can- 36g protein/can (solid in water) around Php 32-36 if I'm not mistaken.
    Monggo- 250g Php20 around 20g protein
    1 liter selecta fresh milk- 40g protein, 32g fat around Php60 each.

    How do you calculate po ba yung fats/protein for daily needs?

    Paki search na lang dito sa forums may thread na ginawa on how to compute for your daily cal and macro needs.
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    My suggestions are definitely not expensive at all. Regarding your program, naguguluhan ako kung anong program yan since it's definitely not 5x5.

    5x5, triny ko po kanina doon sa mga exercises na may 5x5. Yan naman po yung 4x12, yung rinecommend sa akin nung trainer ko, at gamit ko pa rin for 5mos. Balak ko pong magshift ng regimen. Yung 5x5, iba kasi. I mean low rep, pero heavier plates...

    Binabasa ko rin po at the moment...
    http://www.eclipsegym.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57

    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?

    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?
  • zanezane Posts: 963
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?

    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?

    If you can do high reps with your program, then you're NOT lifting high weights.
  • KyzackKyzack Posts: 1,088
    bro san mo nakuha ung "pang pump LANG naman para sa comp"? curious lang..
    zane wrote:
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?

    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?

    If you can do high reps with your program, then you're NOT lifting high weights.

    +1
  • StannisStannis Posts: 1,377
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?

    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?

    Sir matanong lang, ano ba ang idea niyo kung paano mag build ng muscle?
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Kyzack wrote:
    bro san mo nakuha ung "pang pump LANG naman para sa comp"? curious lang..

    +1

    set/15-25, nabasa ko lang years ago around Bodybuilding.com ata, not sure the thread...
    Stannis wrote:
    Sir matanong lang, ano ba ang idea niyo kung paano mag build ng muscle?

    set/5-8, strength
    set/10-15, endurance
    Kapag binubuhat mabigat, siyepre kapag magaan pump at maintenance...
    Yun ang alam ko. Ginawa ko yung 5x5 squat kahapon, 120lbs, nahihirapan akong buhatin, pero mabilis ang recovery, pagkatapos ng isang tira, tira ulet. Pero pagkatapos ng exercise, parang nabibitin ako, parang gusto ko pa ng isa or dalawa pang set.(Nasanay lang siguro dito > ) Unlike yung 4x12 ko na medyo parusa, 70-80lbs ata yun (Minsan ko lang nalalaro kaya mababa.). Hindi mabigat at hindi magaan tama lang, may konting bigat pero kaya pa naman.
    Tapos second motion din na sinabi ng ate ko na nurse, dapat continuous daw ang isang exercise, hindi yung isang set then pahinga ng matagal. Dapat daw continuous ang contraction ng muscle para effective.
    Isa pa, it's more on your lifestyle than your training. To even more effective, dapat may 7-8 hours na tulog, walang labis, walang kulang, at dapat nighttime yun, hindi yung babawain sa susunod na araw. Proper diet, no junk foods, no carbonated or energy drinks (Tinuro lang po akin ng ate ko, hindi rin maganda yung mga energy drinks, yung Gatorade naman pero, ok lang naman IMO.)
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Kyzack wrote:
    bro san mo nakuha ung "pang pump LANG naman para sa comp"? curious lang..
    zane wrote:
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?

    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?

    If you can do high reps with your program, then you're NOT lifting high weights.

    +1

    Amen to this

  • rotrot78rotrot78 Posts: 1,147
    ^ try focusing on your strength. assuming that your nutrition are ok.. for you physique, i recommend the max ot training. strictly 3 sets 6 reps max. medyo manipis ka pa kasi at sobrang gaan pa lang binubuhat mo.
  • StannisStannis Posts: 1,377
    monching11 wrote:
    Kyzack wrote:
    bro san mo nakuha ung "pang pump LANG naman para sa comp"? curious lang..
    zane wrote:
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?

    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?

    If you can do high reps with your program, then you're NOT lifting high weights.

    +1

    Amen to this


    +1

    Basta't talagang heavy, di ka mabibilitin kahit 2 set 5 reps lang.

    Try mong basahin yung Max OT at truth about building muscle ni Sean Nalewanyj. Halos parehas sila ng concept.

    Mahirap ding makinig sa mga medical practitioners kasi yung duktor ng tito ko at yung nurse na kapitbahay namin at yung nurse na friend ko, ang sabi sakin wag daw akong kumain ng madaming itlog sa isang araw.

    Kasi ang role nila eh gumamot ng sakit at lunasan ang sintomas. Ibang mundo ang body building.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Bro watch "I want to look like that guy".
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    zane wrote:
    If you can do high reps with your program, then you're NOT lifting high weights.

    Salamat po boss zane, kuha ko na po yung idea, narealize ko lang nung pabalik-balik kong nabasa ko yung feedback niyo ni boss rotrot. Naka-mindset po kasi ako sa endurance, kaya nagcontradict po yung idea na alam ko po sa alam niyo. Ngayon alam ko na po, bodybuilding is somewhat more on strength than endurance. Kaso hindi to the point of powerlifting...
    rotrot78 wrote:
    ^ try focusing on your strength. assuming that your nutrition are ok.. for you physique, i recommend the max ot training. strictly 3 sets 6 reps max. medyo manipis ka pa kasi at sobrang gaan pa lang binubuhat mo.

    No workout 'til next week, start nalang ulet kapag natapos ko nang basahin yung 5x5program(http://www.eclipsegym.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57).
  • rotrot78rotrot78 Posts: 1,147
    endurance ang focus mo mag marathon or triathlon ka.. kasi ako kapag heavy ako hinihingal pero pag magagaan binubuhat ko walang kahingal hingal.. maiintindihan mo lahat pag nag deadlift ka na or other compound exercises.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Sorry, medyo nagkamali po ako doon sa na-post ko. Mas gusto ko na po ang bodybuilding. Goal ko na pong magkaroon ng ganoong katawan sa mga heavyweight bbers. Tapos kapag sa bodybuilding, kahit senior ka na, pwede pa...
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    zane wrote:
    Core wrote:
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    You build muscle by increasing resistance and tension to each muscle group. So how would a high rep/low weight program benfit you of there's not enough resistance?


    High rep/high weight program po yung ginagawa ko. Pang pump-up lang naman po sa mga comp yung sinasabi niyo pong program. Diba, ang importante naman po eh maabot yung total number of reps, tapos depende na po yun kung paano ididistribute sa number of sets?, di po ba?

    If you can do high reps with your program, then you're NOT lifting high weights.

    As the saying goes, "If the bar ain't bending, thne you're just pretending!"
    Core wrote:
    Kyzack wrote:
    bro san mo nakuha ung "pang pump LANG naman para sa comp"? curious lang..

    +1

    set/15-25, nabasa ko lang years ago around Bodybuilding.com ata, not sure the thread...
    Stannis wrote:
    Sir matanong lang, ano ba ang idea niyo kung paano mag build ng muscle?

    set/5-8, strength
    set/10-15, endurance
    Kapag binubuhat mabigat, siyepre kapag magaan pump at maintenance...
    Yun ang alam ko. Ginawa ko yung 5x5 squat kahapon, 120lbs, nahihirapan akong buhatin, pero mabilis ang recovery, pagkatapos ng isang tira, tira ulet. Pero pagkatapos ng exercise, parang nabibitin ako, parang gusto ko pa ng isa or dalawa pang set.(Nasanay lang siguro dito > ) Unlike yung 4x12 ko na medyo parusa, 70-80lbs ata yun (Minsan ko lang nalalaro kaya mababa.). Hindi mabigat at hindi magaan tama lang, may konting bigat pero kaya pa naman.
    Tapos second motion din na sinabi ng ate ko na nurse, dapat continuous daw ang isang exercise, hindi yung isang set then pahinga ng matagal. Dapat daw continuous ang contraction ng muscle para effective.
    Isa pa, it's more on your lifestyle than your training. To even more effective, dapat may 7-8 hours na tulog, walang labis, walang kulang, at dapat nighttime yun, hindi yung babawain sa susunod na araw. Proper diet, no junk foods, no carbonated or energy drinks (Tinuro lang po akin ng ate ko, hindi rin maganda yung mga energy drinks, yung Gatorade naman pero, ok lang naman IMO.)

    Sundin mo na lang yung mga advice namin sayo dito. Bakit ka naman namin tuturuan ng mali? We learn from each other here. Sa tingin mo ba lumaki si Arnold at Ronnie Coleman ng kaka "pump" lang? Pano kung sabihin ko sayo na Si Arnold eh nanalo pa sa mga powerlifting competitions noon at si Ronnie eh dating powerlifter?

    Also, nothing against medical practioners especially your sister but they don't know jack shit about what we do.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Day 129 [size=x-small](May 23, 2012)[/size]
    Same old routine, binawasan ko yung rep para hindi ma-OT. Testing sa Bill Starr 5x5 Primer, good, pero naninibago talaga. Kelangan pang mag-adjust, nabibitin kung minsan sa 5reps kaya napapasobra. Try kong subukan yung program by next week. Binabasa ko pa rin yung article, nasa Phase 2 part na rin...

    High Bar Squats- 75lbsx5, 95lbsx5, 125lbsx5, 145lbsx5, 145lbsx5
    Leg Extensions - 70lbsx8x5
    Lying Leg Curls - 40lbsx10, 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10
    Seated Calf Raise - 50lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

    Skullcrushers - 30lbsx12, 40lbsx12, 20lbsx12, 30lbsx12
    Seated Dumbbell Triceps Extension - 20lbsx12x4
    Triceps Pushdown - 70lbsx12, 80lbsx12, 80lbsx12, 80lbsx12
    Triceps Pushdown (Reverse Grip) - 70lbsx12x4
    Triceps Pushdown (Rope Attachment) - 70lbsx12, 60lbsx12, 60lbsx12, 60lbsx12
    Seated One-Arm Dumbbell Triceps Extension - 15lbsx12, 10lbsx12, 15lbsx12, 10lbsx12

    Sit-Ups - 15x3, 20x1
    Flat Bench Lying Leg Raise - 15x3, 20x1
    Crunches - 15x3, 20x1
    Alternate DB Side Bend - 35lbsx12, 40lbsx12, 45lbsx12, 50lbsx12

    Diet:
    Meal 1: 1serving Mackarel Tuna, 2cups rice
    Meal 2: 2servings tilapia(medium), 3cups rice, 2 banana
    Meal 3: 4servings galunggong(medium), 2servings miswa, 2 banana, 5cups rice
    Meal 4: ½ glass Selecta Milk(Wala nang natira akala ko pa naman puno yung karton)Day 130 [size=x-small](May 24, 2012)[/size]
    BW: 136lbs >141lbs

    08:00 - Masakit ang lalamunan ko, nagmumog ng tap water mixed with spoonful salt.
    09:00 - Naputol yung lubid ng duyan na pinagtambayan ko, bagsak sa likod inabot ko, may konting galos ng sugat sa right forearm. Masakit pero yung upper back, pero ok makakatayo pa naman.
    10:00 - Sinipon na ako, masakit pa rin yung lalamunan ko. Dinaan ko na sa water theraphy. Naka-10+ glass.
    11:00 - Kumain ng apat ng boiled egg while reading Bill Starr 5x5 Primer article.
    13:00 - Hindi talaga maganda ang pakiramdam. Binagsak ko na sa kama, doon ko naramdaman yung hirap ng paghiga dahil sa kanina. Ipinahinga ko na...
    14:00 - Nilagnat na ako. Masakit yung ulo, mas lalo na yung likod ko. Lahat masakit, except lower body. Hindi pa rin ako uminom ng gamot. Hindi ko pa rin alam kung anong gamot ang iinumin.
    15:00 - Tsk! hindi ako makatulog dahil sa kapitbahay, oras yun ng mga kabataan sa paglalaro nila, kakagising lang nila at kakatulog ko lang. Paiglip-iglip lang ako, masakit pa rin ang ulo.
    17:00 - Hindi ko na talaga kinaya, tinawag ko na. 37.9 Body Temp.
    18:00 - Nakainom na rin ng gamot. Kumain ng noodles.
    20:00 - 37.1 Body Temp
    21:00 - Dinner...
    23:00 - Bed.

    Diet:
    Meal 1: 2serving chicken meat & tinola(1serving chicken meat), 3cups rice
    Meal 2: 4 boiled medium-sized eggs
    Meal 3: 1 kamote
    Meal 4: 1serving noodles, 4 Skyflakes
    Meal 5: 3servings galunggong(medium-sized, fried), 1 ½serving tinola(1serving chicken meat), 5cups rice
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Also, nothing against medical practioners especially your sister but they don't know jack shit about what we do.

    +1
    I hope umabot pa rin ako sa comp dito sa bagong program na'to...
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Follow the program as it is written. Sa umpisa baka mabitin ka but once you're lifting heavy weights saka mo ako balaikan at sabihin na bitin ka pa.
  • CoreCore Posts: 2,509
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Follow the program as it is written. Sa umpisa baka mabitin ka but once you're lifting heavy weights saka mo ako balaikan at sabihin na bitin ka pa.

    Medyo nahahabaan po ako doon nga lang sa routine. I mean 5min rest between sets? Seriously??? Medyo nahahabaan ako, malamang mapagkakamalan akong tatamad-tamad sa gym, tagal magpahinga, magbubuhat ng mabigat tapos konting reps lang. Mapagkakamalaan akong show-off!
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