ProMatrix7-My personal experience

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  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    pre, wag mo masamain, may question mark naman sila and to keep you heads up.. again I know how you feel dahil ganyan din ako nung umpisa dito until nagbackread ako and I don't even need an answer for it.

    Just my grain of salt brader
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    Lol ano rude sa tanong ko? Dame naman pusong mamon now a days....
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Lol ano rude sa tanong ko? Dame naman pusong mamon now a days....

    Pag nagtanong rude na yun!

    Ahaaay!
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    Sagot sana ako boss ng ibng sources ng protein kso katamad na. Lol.
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    san ba nakakabili ng shaker yung may calibration? at pag during workout days, tine-take nyo ba yung whey protein pre-, intra-, or post-workout?
  • chopper17 wrote:
    san ba nakakabili ng shaker yung may calibration? at pag during workout days, tine-take nyo ba yung whey protein pre-, intra-, or post-workout?

    i take mine 40 mins-1 hr pre-workout then post workout.
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    deadlift88 wrote:
    chopper17 wrote:
    san ba nakakabili ng shaker yung may calibration? at pag during workout days, tine-take nyo ba yung whey protein pre-, intra-, or post-workout?

    i take mine 40 mins-1 hr pre-workout then post workout.

    so 40 mins-1 hr pre then another 40 mins-1 hr post-workout?
  • redred Posts: 753
    parang tele serye tong thread na to... haha
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    Pwedeng title nya :

    "Ang makulay na buhay ni Promatrix 7"
    "Oh PM7 tunay ka ba?"
    "PM7, palobohin mo ako"
    "Ako, ikaw at ang PM7"
    "You, me against the gainzzz"

    Hehehe
  • redred Posts: 753
    pinaka bumenta jan yung "Oh PM7 tunay ka ba?" HAHA
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    chopper17 wrote:
    deadlift88 wrote:
    chopper17 wrote:
    san ba nakakabili ng shaker yung may calibration? at pag during workout days, tine-take nyo ba yung whey protein pre-, intra-, or post-workout?

    i take mine 40 mins-1 hr pre-workout then post workout.

    so 40 mins-1 hr pre then another 40 mins-1 hr post-workout?

    Taking whey 40-1hr prior to working out is not advisable IMO. Your energy will be compromised since your body will still digest the protein that you consumed thus you won't be able to utilize all of your energy in your training.

    If you want to take some form of protein prior to training use BCAA's instead.
  • noelnoel Posts: 304
    thanks sir migthy for clarifying this....kaya pala sometimes i feel less energetic pag nagtake ako ng whey an hour before WO....will check on BCAA too....
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    Sir, 11am intake is good to go when the training commence at 4pm ?
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    May booking ako from Argentina papuntang Vietnam, WHEY ang commodity.

    O baka PM7 to ah? Baka after iprocess sa Vietnam sa Pasay ang diretso HAHAHAHA

    "Whey and modified whey, whether or not concentrated or containing added sugar or other sweetening matter"

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  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    for PM7, ano ba standard serving nia? ilang scoop in a mL of water? Mutant Mass kasi tine-take ko now, standard serving is at 4 scoops in 480 mL-960 mL of water. parang mabilis maubos pag ganun.

    tsaka pede bang scooper ng Mutant Mass gamitin ko for PM7? balak ko kasi magpalit to PM7 pag naubos ko na tong Mutant Mass.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Walang kasamag scooper ang PM7. It's 3 tablespoons but if you have a standard size scooper around 35g pwede na yun. Kung masyadong malaki ang sa mutant mass na scooper di pwede punuin ang isang scoop.
  • sevenstringsevenstring Posts: 903
    chopper17 wrote:
    for PM7, ano ba standard serving nia? ilang scoop in a mL of water? Mutant Mass kasi tine-take ko now, standard serving is at 4 scoops in 480 mL-960 mL of water. parang mabilis maubos pag ganun.

    tsaka pede bang scooper ng Mutant Mass gamitin ko for PM7? balak ko kasi magpalit to PM7 pag naubos ko na tong Mutant Mass.

    First, magkaiba mutant mass at pm7. Based from your post i assume na ang understanding mo sa dalawa is substitutable sila to each other wherein magkaiba sila ng category.

    Pwede mo gamitin scoop ng mm para sa pm7. I tried measuring my dymatize elite whey with a scoop of mutant mass and it gives me a 48g accdg to kitchen scale. Although dymatize whey powder could have different density with the pm7's powder, i believe this is an acceptable approximate. there could be a difference within +/- 5g(guesstimate ko lang). If may kitchen scale kayo, you could do a more accurate measurement.
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    Mighty_Oak wrote:
    Walang kasamag scooper ang PM7. It's 3 tablespoons but if you have a standard size scooper around 35g pwede na yun. Kung masyadong malaki ang sa mutant mass na scooper di pwede punuin ang isang scoop.

    is it 3 tbsp in 8 oz water, for PM7 serving? correct?
    chopper17 wrote:
    for PM7, ano ba standard serving nia? ilang scoop in a mL of water? Mutant Mass kasi tine-take ko now, standard serving is at 4 scoops in 480 mL-960 mL of water. parang mabilis maubos pag ganun.

    tsaka pede bang scooper ng Mutant Mass gamitin ko for PM7? balak ko kasi magpalit to PM7 pag naubos ko na tong Mutant Mass.

    First, magkaiba mutant mass at pm7. Based from your post i assume na ang understanding mo sa dalawa is substitutable sila to each other wherein magkaiba sila ng category.

    Pwede mo gamitin scoop ng mm para sa pm7. I tried measuring my dymatize elite whey with a scoop of mutant mass and it gives me a 48g accdg to kitchen scale. Although dymatize whey powder could have different density with the pm7's powder, i believe this is an acceptable approximate. there could be a difference within +/- 5g(guesstimate ko lang). If may kitchen scale kayo, you could do a more accurate measurement.

    estimate ko is 1 scoop of MM is equal to 3 tbsp of PM7. Mas okay ang PM7 kasi mas mababa serving nya compared to MM.
  • sevenstringsevenstring Posts: 903
    Well for me, it will be better to base your servings depende sa target calorie intake mo. Check mo yung calorie computation threads sa diet and nutrition section. Si jettiejet gumawa ng excel file para mas madali mag compute ng calories baka pwede ka humingi ng kopya sa kanya.
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    Nde nga nya alam ang pagkakaiba ng pm7 at mass. Lol, talagng magkaiba ang serving nyang 2 na yan, isipin mo baket
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    Well for me, it will be better to base your servings depende sa target calorie intake mo. Check mo yung calorie computation threads sa diet and nutrition section. Si jettiejet gumawa ng excel file para mas madali mag compute ng calories baka pwede ka humingi ng kopya sa kanya.

    based sa calorie calculator na to,

    http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

    i need to maintain 2223 Calories/day.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    ano ba plano mo? bulking sir? If bulking surplus mo pa siguro yan like +20% ng maintenance mo so roughly gagamit ka talaga ng supps kung kinulang ka.
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    Jettie wrote:
    ano ba plano mo? bulking sir? If bulking surplus mo pa siguro yan like +20% ng maintenance mo so roughly gagamit ka talaga ng supps kung kinulang ka.

    yup, bulking, but yung tama lang. yung hindi masyadong masagwa tingnan. i'm only 5'5" in height. hehe

    kasi based from the standard serving ng Mutant Mass, around 1060 calories makukuha, so that's more than 2000 calories in a day (pag twice a day lang). plus, i also get the other calories sa mga kinakain ko. not sure if tama computation ko.

    you mean, plus 20% of 2223 calories/day? so that's around 2668 calories/day ang kelangan ko?
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    hehe yea sir. ganun talaga bulking sir kain! Mas okay kung daanin sa pagkain 90% at 10% lang yung supps pag kinulang ka sa sources ng foods mo.

    Pero syempre hindi ka naman ganun tataba agad in a short time no at nag eehersisyo ka sir kaya sakto lang yan.

    Ako 2700 surplus ko haha bloated talaga ako !
  • sevenstringsevenstring Posts: 903
    chopper17 wrote:
    Jettie wrote:
    ano ba plano mo? bulking sir? If bulking surplus mo pa siguro yan like +20% ng maintenance mo so roughly gagamit ka talaga ng supps kung kinulang ka.

    yup, bulking, but yung tama lang. yung hindi masyadong masagwa tingnan. i'm only 5'5" in height. hehe

    kasi based from the standard serving ng Mutant Mass, around 1060 calories makukuha, so that's more than 2000 calories in a day (pag twice a day lang). plus, i also get the other calories sa mga kinakain ko. not sure if tama computation ko.

    you mean, plus 20% of 2223 calories/day? so that's around 2668 calories/day ang kelangan ko?

    based sa target calorie mo na 2668, 2 servings (8 scoops of mutant mass) is too much imho (unless kulang na kulang ka sa whole foods).


    try to experiment with this method:
    1. determine the calories you need to take per day. (which is nakuha mo na = 2668 calories)
    2. determine the macro ratio na gagamitin mo (either by percentage or based sa bodyweight, for the protein, you could start with the generic 1g of protein per bodyweight in lbs) sa carbs you could either use 35% to 50% ng total macro. remaining macro dedicate mo sa fats (healthy fats as much as possible).
    3. pre plan your meal for the next day.
    4. compute the calories first of the whole foods na icoconsume sa buong araw.
    5. if kulang ang calories from whole food, include your mass gainer or whey to complete your calories. also, dito mo malalaman kung ang kelangan mo ba talaga is whey or mass gainer.
    6. do this for one week (trial week). day after day, magiging confident ka sa calorie computations and makakatulong ito sa pag estimate mo sa calories through intuition.
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    chopper17 wrote:
    Jettie wrote:
    ano ba plano mo? bulking sir? If bulking surplus mo pa siguro yan like +20% ng maintenance mo so roughly gagamit ka talaga ng supps kung kinulang ka.

    yup, bulking, but yung tama lang. yung hindi masyadong masagwa tingnan. i'm only 5'5" in height. hehe

    kasi based from the standard serving ng Mutant Mass, around 1060 calories makukuha, so that's more than 2000 calories in a day (pag twice a day lang). plus, i also get the other calories sa mga kinakain ko. not sure if tama computation ko.

    you mean, plus 20% of 2223 calories/day? so that's around 2668 calories/day ang kelangan ko?

    based sa target calorie mo na 2668, 2 servings (8 scoops of mutant mass) is too much imho (unless kulang na kulang ka sa whole foods).


    try to experiment with this method:
    1. determine the calories you need to take per day. (which is nakuha mo na = 2668 calories)
    2. determine the macro ratio na gagamitin mo (either by percentage or based sa bodyweight, for the protein, you could start with the generic 1g of protein per bodyweight in lbs) sa carbs you could either use 35% to 50% ng total macro. remaining macro dedicate mo sa fats (healthy fats as much as possible).
    3. pre plan your meal for the next day.
    4. compute the calories first of the whole foods na icoconsume sa buong araw.
    5. if kulang ang calories from whole food, include your mass gainer or whey to complete your calories. also, dito mo malalaman kung ang kelangan mo ba talaga is whey or mass gainer.
    6. do this for one week (trial week). day after day, magiging confident ka sa calorie computations and makakatulong ito sa pag estimate mo sa calories through intuition.

    honestly, no idea ko kung ano ang macro ratio. for the food naman, di ko sure kung ilang calories ako in a day. ang everyday kung baon sa office for snacks are two slices of wheat bread with peanut butter filling and 4 pcs of whole wheat crackers.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    hehee sir planuhin mo maigi especially yang calories thing. Laking tulong, 1 month ka lang naman magbibilang then the next few months eyeball count na lang yan :)
  • chopper17chopper17 Posts: 72
    how do i get the macro ratio?
  • sevenstringsevenstring Posts: 903
    trial and error ang macro ratio. most recommendation sa net is magsimula using 40P/40C/20F or 50C/30P/20F or 50C/25P/25F. then tweak it from there.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Difference of Whey and Mass gainer. Ilang beses na nabangit yan dito. May mga thread na din about jan.
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