Newbie from Batangas City

ajpanganibanajpanganiban Posts: 4
in New Member Introductions
Hello mga tropa, my name is AJ Panganiban from Batangas City. Balak ko po sana magtayo ng gym dito (infront of Holy Trinity Church near SM City Batangas). Baka po matutulungan nyo ako kasi first timer po in gym business. Any tips or suggestions po ay makakatulong. Marami pong salamat!

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  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    Welcome Kabayan' kumintang lang ako... Y why sa pallocan (trapik brgy ng bats)? Hehehehe. Sir anong klaseng gym ipapatayo mo? I mean... MMA type na gym, crossfit gym or just a typical gym? :huh
  • ajpanganibanajpanganiban Posts: 4
    typical gym lang kabayan, nag gym na kasi ako dati sa tabi ng shakeys infront of sm city batangas kaso nagloko yung gym bigla nawala, siguro mga 3 years ago na un hehe. simula non wala na akong makita maayos na gym sa pallocan (pwera sa pontefino pero napakamahal) kaya balak ko magtayo ng ok na gym sa part na yun, hindi high end pero yung ayos ang mga gamit, maaliwalas at malinis. Tska malapit sa amin mga taga dun, gulod itaas lang ako. hehe
  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    ajpanganiban wrote:
    typical gym lang kabayan, nag gym na kasi ako dati sa tabi ng shakeys infront of sm city batangas kaso nagloko yung gym bigla nawala, siguro mga 3 years ago na un hehe. simula non wala na akong makita maayos na gym sa pallocan (pwera sa pontefino pero napakamahal) kaya balak ko magtayo ng ok na gym sa part na yun, hindi high end pero yung ayos ang mga gamit, maaliwalas at malinis. Tska malapit sa amin mga taga dun, gulod itaas lang ako. hehe

    Bro' totoo na walang maayos na gym sa atin... :undecided: napagiwanan na tau ng Lipa or kahit ng Padre Garcia. Hehehehe Last year I started sa Crossfit Batangas (less machine.. less equipment) pero na appreciate ko ng sobra kasi i natapyas ng almost 20kg ako in span of 6 months. What I like most sa kanila was yung bar nila... they are using oly bar. But unfortunately nag relocate na yun gym na yun sa bauan' which is traffic na namn. :blush: but some of the members na taga city or even taga dyan sa gulod ay nagpamember sa bauan at ako (dumadalaw minsan dun).

    If its a typical gym then invest ka sa bar' buy an oly bar... dont get the 1inch bar ba yun... at lilipat kami sa yo. Hehehehe Ang problema kasi gym sa atin especially sa bayan eh yung nagtayo ng gym eh wala masyadong alam sa gym so their equipment eh basta na' yun ay opinion ko lang. :blush: and if the place is medyo malawak then lagyan mo ng crossfit equipment (medball, kettlebell, etc...)
  • mikol22mikol22 Posts: 497
    kabayan pala ang mga areh :)

    taga dagatan lang ako hehe pero i am currently working at stay dito sa maynila. pag umuuwi ako jan sa atin wala ako gym na mapuntahan kaya puro bodyweight exercise lang ginagawa ko. try mo mag paquote sa ensayo equipment ng mga kelangan mo. or gusto mo sa raon sa divisoria, mas mura mga plates dun.sumita ka na lang ng van para isang bilihan ka na hehe...
  • Emman1986Emman1986 Posts: 1,819
    goodluck bro :) after ma established nyan upload ka pictures ah then ung mga nagsatos mo sa lahat ( equips, mga bayarin sa city hall, DTI etc. ) pangarap ko rin kasi yan pag tinamad nako sa work ko o kelangan ko na mag retired hahaha
  • ajpanganibanajpanganiban Posts: 4
    Ok ba ang mga gamit sa Gym Depot? mas mura kasi sya kesa sa Gym Ensayo. sa cavite lang sya.. San maganda kumuha ng olympic bar at plates? yung mura pero quality..
  • asggeloasggelo Posts: 76
    nasa trainer din ang buhay ng gym kelangan magaling mag motivate para hindi tamarin yung mga clients.

    good luck sa business sir.
  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    ajpanganiban wrote:
    Ok ba ang mga gamit sa Gym Depot? mas mura kasi sya kesa sa Gym Ensayo. sa cavite lang sya.. San maganda kumuha ng olympic bar at plates? yung mura pero quality..

    Not sure kung okay sa Gym Depot' pero looks good namn sa site nila' the best thing sir para malaman mo kung good eh puntahan mo mismo sa Cavite and check mo personally. :blush: Check mo din sir sa First Lawis Trading sa Pedro Gil nga lang un. I guess when it comes to oly bar eh ndi nagkakalayo price nun' more or less 7k isa. Sir nakita ko lang na good quality plates (rubber, bumper at iron cast) eh sa ensayo. Although sabi nga nila ay wala sa plates, bar o equipment yan na i believe na point of view ng mga nagbubuhat pero sa point of view ng may ari I think you have to make ur gym looks good para dayuhin sya. Pero tama si sir @asggelo na malaking factor ang trainer. Time to time pumupunta ako ng P.GArcia at Bauan para mag gym because of trainer knowing taga kumintang ako. :huh

    Sir may I know the equipment you wish to buy to start to? Baka ma advicesan ka ng mga idol natin dito kung kelangan o hindi un? :blush:
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    @ ajpanganiban

    Mag-invest ka sa maayos na power cage (siguro kahit isa lang muna dahil may kamahalan yan) at free weights section. Olympic bars and standard diameter plates para makahikayat ka ng serious lifters. Sa experience ko, mahirap mag-deadlift ng maayos kung maliit ang plates tapos matangkad ang lifter

    Less on machines, siguro isang lat pull down (para sa mahina pa para sa pull ups) at isang seated row. Please, don't bother with the Smith machine

    Maganda rin na may dip stations (parallel and v-shape to accommodate different people) at pull up stations. Dedicate a spacious area for deadlifting

    Dumbbells up to 100 lbs

    Maglagay ka rin ng friendly reminders "As courtesy to our fellow lifters, NO CURLING IN THE POWER CAGE / SQUAT RACK. Thank you"

    Kung kaya pa ng budget, yung attendant mo sa gym ay maganda na maalam sa tamang pagbubuhat para ma-guide ang newbies sa gym. Di naman necessarily na may mga certification


    I know this may be too much for a start-up but I think it's worth the investment
  • asggeloasggelo Posts: 76
    isa din ang importante yung space. mas magandang mag gym kung spacious yung lugar. Good trainer + good space = good gym... kahit basic lang ang equipments. ang importante kung paano ma utilize yung mga gamit ng tama
  • kenzykenzy Posts: 663
    Kabayan dn po ako, Sa may hilltop lang ako dati sa bats city, lapit BIR. Sir @mikol22 san ka sa dagatan? Madami ako tropa jan, lapit sa basketball court. Pasyal tau kay sir aj kapag nakapagtayo na sya gym, hehe
  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    kenzy wrote:
    Kabayan dn po ako, Sa may hilltop lang ako dati sa bats city, lapit BIR. Sir @mikol22 san ka sa dagatan? Madami ako tropa jan, lapit sa basketball court. Pasyal tau kay sir aj kapag nakapagtayo na sya gym, hehe

    Sir taga saan ka na ngaun? San ka nag bubuhat?
  • kenzykenzy Posts: 663
    fatmonkey wrote:

    Sir taga saan ka na ngaun? San ka nag bubuhat?

    Pasay po sir ako nagsstay now. kapag weekdays po, dito ako buhat sa company gym namin. kung matapat naman po weekends, sa may Tipness Gym, EGI buiding, LRT buendia.
  • mikol22mikol22 Posts: 497
    kenzy wrote:
    Kabayan dn po ako, Sa may hilltop lang ako dati sa bats city, lapit BIR. Sir @mikol22 san ka sa dagatan? Madami ako tropa jan, lapit sa basketball court. Pasyal tau kay sir aj kapag nakapagtayo na sya gym, hehe

    sa parteng kanluran ako pero walking distance lang namin yang basketball court.
  • ajpanganibanajpanganiban Posts: 4
    wow, maraming salamat sa inyo, bale ang lawak ng space is 165 square meters lang.. Tapos nasa 3rd floor sya.
    ito sir yung package ng gym depot:
    2eureqo.jpg
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    ajpanganiban wrote:
    wow, maraming salamat sa inyo, bale ang lawak ng space is 165 square meters lang.. Tapos nasa 3rd floor sya.
    ito sir yung package ng gym depot:
    2eureqo.jpg

    The study's result is based on 40 to 50 person per day. Have you checked the location of your planned gym ? Do you think you can reach that foot traffic ?

    Where was the study conducted ? Length of the study ? Maraming questions dun sa test methodology ng study


    At isa pa, bawasan mo yung machines. Tanggalin mo yung Smith machine at Pec Dec. Better to invest your money on a power cage
  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    Sir @ajpanganiban kung makakapunta ka sa bayan sa noble, yung dating meralco yung orange na building. May gym doon yung equipment nila ay parang gym depot' parang kasi from the looks noon sa website ay ganun na ganun ang pagka fabricate.

    I agree with sir @nrg500 yun study might not be applicable for everyone, especially sa case mo sir' habang putol pa un tulay, do you think makaka 40 - 50 pax ka? It is a given factor sa city natin walang magandang gym, ano meron ang gym mo para lumipat kami sayo? A lot of factors to consider sir. and if your open sa idea about crossfit... sa bauan meron pde kita samahan, sabay ka sa amin pag nag work out kami dun. Hehehehe

    And yes I agree bawasan mo yung machine' I'm not a pro pero I think yung package ng gym-depot ay business point of view... pero sir nagbubuhat ka din i think alam mo din or idea ano un talaga kelangan. :huh: Think mo lang needed talaga malaki ang ika mura mo. :-) try to ask yung mga tao dito sa PBB' and pagaralan mo yung mga sagot, i think it will help u a lot. Sir ako eto lang hanapin ko sa gym mo - flat, incline & decline bench, cable crossover machine, squat rack, dumbbells, oly bar, ez bar. :blush:
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    Based dyan sa package, pwede mo na alisin yung abdominal bench (crap) and smith machine. Save the money for heavier DB's and Plates. Here's why:

    1. Pwede mag ab work out ANYWHERE kahit sa CR at kahit nakatayo sa isang sulok.
    2. Karamihan ng gumagamit ng smith machine ay napipilitan lang, either dahil walang squat rack or bench na available.

    Karamihan ng suggestions namin ay based sa training style and experience ng nagaadvice. So si nrg500 more on the strength training (PL included) point of view, si fatmonkey naman crossfit and majority sa bodybuilding naman. With a limited budget, hindi mo mapo-provide lahat ng needs ng mga tao na yan. Take note also na 90% ng pumupunta sa gym ay newbies (less than 3 years lifting of whatever goal) so they basically dont need the UNNECESSARY stuff (unless they wanna complicate things), unnecessary equipments, space and toys.

    Kung may budget ka man para maprovide yung mga trip ng different breeds of lifters, question is... ano ba ang target market mo? anong image ng gym mo? Kadalasan ng successful gyms may identity. Pinupuntahan sila ng tao for that reason. Madaming gym dito sa manila na nakikiuso lang, kumpleto sa lahat, weights, boxing ring, MMA, zumba, crossfit etc. all in one. Pero hindi naman namamaximize yung profit kasi hindi kumikita yung products/services nila turns out kalat lang sa loob ng gym yung iba nilang investment. Also, if you have all those products, kelangan may mga experienced/competent coaches ka kasi sila magdadala ng pangalan ng gym mo. Kung wala naman good coaches, better give free membership to local bodybuilders and athletes within the area para maka attract ka ng tao.

    goodluck :)
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    @ fatmonkey

    Sorry, Cross Fit is shit and I wouldn't even call it a sport

    Watch the videos below and you'll understand why. Listen to the commentary also

    [video=dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22p3g0_deadlifts-from-the-washed-up-loser-olympics_fun[/video]

    [video=dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x20ksfx_how-dumbasses-do-pullups_fun[/video]
  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    nrg500 wrote:

    Sorry, Cross Fit is shit and I wouldn't even call it a sport

    Then that's your point of view and maybe most of the PBB yun din. I've seen the video before ko pasukin yung crossfit. Now, they said its a sport and even some claim na crossfit athletes sila... but i don't even care. I think its my personality kung bakit ko napasok yung crossfit... hindi kasi ako basta basta nakikinig. :huh marami na rin nagsabi sa akin na its full of shit... hindi daw ako matotone... hindi daw lalaki ang katawan ko dun.... and many more. But i still tried it at kung tama sila then I will support them... after doing crossfit wod for 5 months... yes so far TOTOO, hindi lumaki katawan ko, hindi na tone BUT I lost 24 lbs, better endurance and it made me quit smoking. :blush: Bakit ko nagustuhan? Maybe because yung idea ng WOD na you need to have the best time. I used to be a dragon boat paddler and one of the discipline is to finish the race as fast as possible.
    Ngaun crossfit ay parang once in a blue moon na lang sa akin :blush: coz i believed nga na hindi mag totone katawan ko dun so I'm in a body split program.
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Honestly, anything could be SHIT to you but AWESOME for others. You can't generalize everything. The world doesn't work that way. Always keep an open mind.

    My point of view, as long as you enjoy doing it, don't give a damn if others call it SHIT. :)
  • mikol22mikol22 Posts: 497
    natawa ako dun sa nagcocomentary dun sa video :D

    kahit puro swing ung pullups nya mahirap pa din yun :)
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    riddler wrote:
    Honestly, anything could be SHIT to you but AWESOME for others. You can't generalize everything. The world doesn't work that way. Always keep an open mind.

    My point of view, as long as you enjoy doing it, don't give a damn if others call it SHIT. :)

    I'm not get generalizing, it's specific to Cross Fit

    Have you watched the video ? Have you seen the deadlift of the woman in orange shirt ? Perhaps they shouldn't call it a deadlift coz the deadlift I know has a standard in form and in execution


    Cross Fit is a blasphemy to weight lifting (power lifting or bodybuilding)

    Kipping pull ups
    Kipping dips
    Kipping muscle ups
    etc...


    Well, that is just my opinion. If anyone here believes or practices Cross Fit, I'll let them be. I would not force them to stop it

    Just saying

    Peace, bro :)
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    I'm doing a thread about Crossfit. Dun natin tuloy ang topic para hindi tuluyang ma-hijack ang hi-jacked na thread na ito hahaha. I'm already working on it...
  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308
    ajpanganiban wrote:
    typical gym lang kabayan, nag gym na kasi ako dati sa tabi ng shakeys infront of sm city batangas kaso nagloko yung gym bigla nawala, siguro mga 3 years ago na un hehe. simula non wala na akong makita maayos na gym sa pallocan (pwera sa pontefino pero napakamahal) kaya balak ko magtayo ng ok na gym sa part na yun, hindi high end pero yung ayos ang mga gamit, maaliwalas at malinis. Tska malapit sa amin mga taga dun, gulod itaas lang ako. hehe

    Natuloy ka ga? Napadaan ako kahapon sa may trinity and sa tapat... Sa location gusto mo may tarp - asthetic fitness gym opening soon. Sayo ba yun sir?
  • little_amplittle_amp Posts: 2

    Sir sensya now lang ulit nakavisit dito. yes sir natuloy ako akin yung Aesthetic Fitness Gym. Visit ka po minsan dun.

  • mikol22mikol22 Posts: 497

    @little_amp said:
    Sir sensya now lang ulit nakavisit dito. yes sir natuloy ako akin yung Aesthetic Fitness Gym. Visit ka po minsan dun.

    boss nakapag gym din pala ako jan, ung tapat ng SM at simbahan.ok jan.ganda lalo dun sa squat rack hehe...mag buhat ulit ako jan pag nauwi ako kasama kapatid ko....

  • fatmonkeyfatmonkey Posts: 308

    @little_amp said:
    Sir sensya now lang ulit nakavisit dito. yes sir natuloy ako akin yung Aesthetic Fitness Gym. Visit ka po minsan dun.

    plano ko na yun sir after zaf dyan na sana ako mag gym kaya lang naging bz na ako at napalipad na rin.

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