Getting Serious

ryanderyande Posts: 20
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Just started going to the gym. Mag 3 months palang ako, I plan to take Whey Protein starting January.

Any comments sa workout program ko? I work out 3-4x a week. Kapag hindi busy everyday pa nga.

Re: the program, minimal leg workout sana, I need to strengthen my upper body and build my arms and chest. I do parkour and streetdance as well.

Ectomorph. Malakas naman akong kumain. Pero di talaga lumalampas ng 58 kg ang weight ko, 56 nga yata ako ngayon. I'll try harder at eating more, 2x a day lang usually dahil sobrang busy.

Pictures to follow! :D
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  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    bakit minimal leg workout lang paps?
  • shaneshane Posts: 116
    IMO eating 2x a day is not enough. Ang sarap kumain, wht not maximize eating? :D
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    Kasi nakakahiya mang aminin pero gusto ko ng nice chest. I mean priority ko lumaki dibdib ko. (sounds so wrong)
    Saka for parkour, dapat priority ko ang upper body and arms muna kasi ok na naman strength ng legs ko. I did jog 5kms everyday during college and I still do streetdance.
    :D
    shane wrote:
    IMO eating 2x a day is enough. Ang sarap kumain, wht not maximize eating? :D

    No time. But I do try to eat as much as possible. Medyo paranoid nga lang ako kapag nakikita kong lumalaki yung tiyan ko. Anorexic din kasi ako nung bata ako pero "medyo" cured na. Nakakastress lang tingnan sa mirror yung tiyan ko kapag bagong kain.
  • shaneshane Posts: 116
    My Bad! Sorry, i mean eating 2x a day is not enough. hehe

    Well kailangan mo po kumain ng madami para mapalaki ang iyong gustong palakihin :)
  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    pero what do you mean by minimal leg work out?
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    I started eating 2400-2500 calories a day since last week. I'm doing meals with the help of a nutritionist. :sport:

    Sa January na ako magsusupplements, natatakot akong magkapimples bago magpaschool ID e. Haha!
    Ghee wrote:
    pero what do you mean by minimal leg work out?

    Treadmill, jogging and using leg equipment kapag naghihintay for another equipment. Or maybe wrong choice ang wording ko? Sorry!
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    di ka talaga magegain ng weight kung twice ka lang kumain kahit 2400 calories pa total mo for the day. 2 big meals is ok but if its not working then forget science and do what is necessary. I also dont feel you need to be strict with 2400 cals, kung 3-4x ka kakain mas malaki ang chance na hangang 3k calories makain mo. Kung wala ka time kumain, magpuyat ka sa gabi makakain lang.
  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    im no parkour athlete (obviously sa laki kong to) pero i know that you need explosive jumps, resistance, and safer landing (with muscle support sa legs) so you need strong legsf too correct me if im wrong. kasi mataas ang injury ng sports na iyan dba? so you need to have a strong base. so 1 sa pinakamalaking muscle group ng katawan natin ay legs. the whole lower torso. dapat kung malakas ung upper body mo, malakas din ung lower para nag cocomplement sila sa movements na gagawin mo dba? so i guess you need to train them as much as you wanna train them uppers. hindi ng pang hyperthropy pero str training and resistance. variation ng squat paps. lalo na back squats. tapos walking lunges. tapos ung ginagawa sa crossfit na weighted box jump. IMO lang :)
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    ^^
    noted boss! eat eat eat! Haha! Pero seryoso kakain na talaga ako ng madami. Ano bang marerecommend nyo na snacks? Yung binibili nalang somewhere, can't cook e. Buti nga yun pan seared chicken breast madaling lutuin.

    ^
    I mean ok pa naman yung leg strength ko since I can jump down almost 10 feet without any pain or problem. Pero noted yan sir, magsesearch ako ng for strength and resistance training ng legs. Nahihiya akong sumingit sa nagssquats e, yung mga malalaking katawan sa gym minsan sinosolo na yung equipment. Haha
  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    http://www.parkourtrain.net/116/lower-body-conditioning-for-parkour.html

    http://www.apexmovement.com/blog/top-5-weightlifting-exercises-for-parkour-athletes/#sthash.GnEqiZK3.dpbs
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    in your case i recommend Jollibee or Mcdonald's.
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    ^^
    whoah nice links! bookmarked~

    ^
    pweds sir. haha. singitan ko na din ng protein bars. saka ayun I keep a stash of sweets and pastries na din sa desk ko. cookies, cupcakes, etc...
  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    badass_vinch wrote:
    in your case i recommend Jollibee or Mcdonald's.

    Kelan mo kaya marerecomend sakin yan =( hahaha =( :lol
  • shaneshane Posts: 116
    Andok's Dokitos. Breast + 1 ltr fresh milk, Yummy!
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    shane wrote:
    Andok's Dokitos. Breast + 1 ltr fresh milk, Yummy!

    Mas trip ko yung super half! Haha! Sarap e kapag wala akong makain yun nilalantakan ko. How about Vitamilk ba yun? OK din ba? Nakigaya lang ako sa gymgoers e usually yun iniinom nila after working out.
  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    ryande wrote:
    shane wrote:
    Andok's Dokitos. Breast + 1 ltr fresh milk, Yummy!

    Mas trip ko yung super half! Haha! Sarap e kapag wala akong makain yun nilalantakan ko. How about Vitamilk ba yun? OK din ba? Nakigaya lang ako sa gymgoers e usually yun iniinom nila after working out.

    ayaw mo mag whey protein paps? easy way to get em protein :)
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    Ghee wrote:
    ryande wrote:
    shane wrote:
    Andok's Dokitos. Breast + 1 ltr fresh milk, Yummy!

    Mas trip ko yung super half! Haha! Sarap e kapag wala akong makain yun nilalantakan ko. How about Vitamilk ba yun? OK din ba? Nakigaya lang ako sa gymgoers e usually yun iniinom nila after working out.

    ayaw mo mag whey protein paps? easy way to get em protein :)

    January na boss. After ko magpaschool ID. Deliks baka magbreakout ang pimples e. OK na naman after magpaID. Pero ang plano ko is ON during workout days tapos PM7 during rest days.
  • shaneshane Posts: 116
    ryande wrote:
    Mas trip ko yung super half! Haha! Sarap e kapag wala akong makain yun nilalantakan ko. How about Vitamilk ba yun? OK din ba? Nakigaya lang ako sa gymgoers e usually yun iniinom nila after working out.

    I prefer fresh milk than Vitamilk. I've read somewhere na nakakababa daw ng testosterone level ang soy milk though hindi ko sya kine-claim na totoo. Halos same protein content lang sila ng milk kaya sa milk ako. hehe
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    ^
    woah oo nga napa search ako.
    1 L of milk parang ang dami non ah

    So parang ngayon, gutom na ako. di naman pwedeng lumabas ng office. lagi din akong gutom e pero no time lang talagang kumain. mamayang 530 na ako kakain,
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    Ghee wrote:
    badass_vinch wrote:
    in your case i recommend Jollibee or Mcdonald's.

    Kelan mo kaya marerecomend sakin yan =( hahaha =( :lol

    dadating ka din dyan bro. ako dati twice a year lang ata kumain ng fastfood for several years kasi super sensitive ako sa fatgain, bloating and all kinds of genetic flaws. Then dumating sa point na kaya na ng katawan ko especially my metabolism ang mga ganung pagkain.

    @ryande mga calorie densed food kainin mo kung wala kang time at appetite para bultuhan ang pasok ng calories sa katawan.
  • BANEBANE Posts: 1,927
    badass_vinch wrote:
    Ghee wrote:
    badass_vinch wrote:
    in your case i recommend Jollibee or Mcdonald's.

    Kelan mo kaya marerecomend sakin yan =( hahaha =( :lol

    dadating ka din dyan bro. ako dati twice a year lang ata kumain ng fastfood for several years kasi super sensitive ako sa fatgain, bloating and all kinds of genetic flaws. Then dumating sa point na kaya na ng katawan ko especially my metabolism ang mga ganung pagkain.

    yes! cant wait!mamay sir mag checheat meal ako. haha pinapangarap ko na to since last week haha,
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    Starting body. Sana magimprove talaga. Ang payat e. Hahaha!
    Rest day today. Tomorrow nalang ulit ang gym.

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  • PowerstheticPowersthetic Posts: 144
    Bro, d mo kailangan mag gain weight ng mabilis mula sa fast foods.
    Lahat ng weight yan pupunta sa tyan mo. Nd sa muscles..
    Ang solusyon dian.. add mo calorie intake mo by 100-300 each week
    hanggang malaman mo kung ilan ang calories need mo para ma gain ng 0.5-1lb per week.
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    Powersthetic wrote:
    Bro, d mo kailangan mag gain weight ng mabilis mula sa fast foods.
    Lahat ng weight yan pupunta sa tyan mo. Nd sa muscles..
    Ang solusyon dian.. add mo calorie intake mo by 100-300 each week
    hanggang malaman mo kung ilan ang calories need mo para ma gain ng 0.5-1lb per week.

    For 0.5 lb per week na gain, ang advise ng nutritionist is 2400-2500 calories sakin. Well sinusunod ko naman yun ngayon, lampas pa nga kasi kain ako ng kain.
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    OMG! bawal magMCDO? :(
  • ryanderyande Posts: 20
    Sa tiyan ba talaga pupunta? :(
    Nagwowork out naman di ba? Actually pinakaaccessible for SNACKS ang fast food sakin. Sobrang busy e.
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    ryande wrote:
    Powersthetic wrote:
    Bro, d mo kailangan mag gain weight ng mabilis mula sa fast foods.
    Lahat ng weight yan pupunta sa tyan mo. Nd sa muscles..
    Ang solusyon dian.. add mo calorie intake mo by 100-300 each week
    hanggang malaman mo kung ilan ang calories need mo para ma gain ng 0.5-1lb per week.

    For 0.5 lb per week na gain, ang advise ng nutritionist is 2400-2500 calories sakin. Well sinusunod ko naman yun ngayon, lampas pa nga kasi kain ako ng kain.

    IMO If you have poor metabolism and genetics "SLOW BULK" is not for you. If you have not built anything yet (mass, strength, experience) slow bulk also is not for you. I know nabasa na natin lahat sa internet yang .5-1lb per week weight gain.... but c'mon, who has actually done it? dito sa pinas sino na nakagawa nyan on a consistent basis? or done it over and over again with good results?

    I know that .5-1lb per week weight gain is a good gauge for muscle gains, but the question is how would you know how much calories you need to get those gains? MOst hardgainers nahihirapan pa mag-gain ng 1lb despite eating 1k or more calories above maintenance. Meron din tumingin lang sa pagkain 2lbs per week pa ang weight gain...
  • PowerstheticPowersthetic Posts: 144
    badass_vinch wrote:
    ryande wrote:
    Powersthetic wrote:
    Bro, d mo kailangan mag gain weight ng mabilis mula sa fast foods.
    Lahat ng weight yan pupunta sa tyan mo. Nd sa muscles..
    Ang solusyon dian.. add mo calorie intake mo by 100-300 each week
    hanggang malaman mo kung ilan ang calories need mo para ma gain ng 0.5-1lb per week.

    For 0.5 lb per week na gain, ang advise ng nutritionist is 2400-2500 calories sakin. Well sinusunod ko naman yun ngayon, lampas pa nga kasi kain ako ng kain.

    IMO If you have poor metabolism and genetics "SLOW BULK" is not for you. If you have not built anything yet (mass, strength, experience) slow bulk also is not for you. I know nabasa na natin lahat sa internet yang .5-1lb per week weight gain.... but c'mon, who has actually done it? dito sa pinas sino na nakagawa nyan on a consistent basis? or done it over and over again with good results?

    I know that .5-1lb per week weight gain is a good gauge for muscle gains, but the question is how would you know how much calories you need to get those gains? MOst hardgainers nahihirapan pa mag-gain ng 1lb despite eating 1k or more calories above maintenance. Meron din tumingin lang sa pagkain 2lbs per week pa ang weight gain...

    Bro, I don't believe hard gainers.
    It's either you're not eating enough or you're undereating.
    Pero para lng sakin, stick with basics.
    Na try ko nayang dirty bulk yung malaki ung caloric surplus.
    I regret it...
    I care about looking good while building muscle, doesn't matter if it's slowly as long it is all quality muscle..
    I think it's okay for powerlifters though if you're training for strength without caring aesthetics.
    Sorry po kung nag E-english ako at saka panget tagalog ko. Fil-Chi kasi ako.

    gsto ko din e share yung video nito nun nakita ko a few months ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

    and also this quote from Frank Zane
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    I agree with some of your thoughts vinch that not all people can do that here in Philippines.
    But I would never find an excuse like that
    that depends on OP. I am just giving advice. :)
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    ^ easy to say na "under eater" but since it's difficult to force feed and over eat just to gain some lbs of weight makes them "hard gainers" in reality. As much as we want to deny it but they do exist.

    Also, if it doesn't work for us doesn't mean it wont work for them. my advice was specifically for OP and not some random generic advice i read somewhere. And, you really wont get much solid evidence with 1 year of diet experimentation. Training and nutrition goes hand and hand so if your diet doesnt match with your training doesnt mean its wrong... wrong timing siguro.

    i didn't watch the vids, both guys are juiced so they're on a different class of their own. No offense but i find it not suitable for true natty's. I agree with frank zane tho but again the road to get to what he is saying will differ if steroids are involved.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    If you have poor metabolism and genetics "SLOW BULK" is not for you. If you have not built anything yet (mass, strength, experience) slow bulk also is not for you

    Pretty much explain what's a hard gainer.
    , I don't believe hard gainers

    does it mean that you don't believe on good / bad genetics, body type( ecto, meso , endo) and fast / slow metabolism as well?

    hard gainer... they exist. believe it or not :)
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