Fat Burner/Slimming

I am not in anyway affiliated with Nutrex or any of its product

This is what a Lipo6 tablet looks like, a white stripe with lipo6 on the tablet
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What Lipo6 box looks like
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Back of Lipo6, you can get better info found in the net, sorry for low quality camera
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Bottle of Lipo6
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The item was brought online for the price of 1,600.
Personal reviews..
Price: 8/10 - Cheaper than Hydroxycut, Price is within range of most of the Fat burners in the market. For 60 tablets per bottle and 1 tablet per serving.

Performance: 9/10 - Better than Hydroxycut, i believe its overated (Hydroxycut, like almost all fat burners). But im getting the thermogenic effect that i need, like i started
to sweat just few minutes of working out.

Experience: 9/10 - a good 9/10, you only need 1 tablet per serving which is an improvement compared to taking 2-3 tablets per serving. Gives me alertness which i need (as a student sometimes i don't feel sleepy, even though i took it the night before), as a sign of potency. You may shun away from drinking too much coffee, as the product contains coffee already. I never take the product without working out, im taking it for thermogenic effect.

Fat Loss: 8/10 - Might give it a good 8, since it depends on person to person. But for me who's not working out much (good once-trice a week) it helps me maintain my weight.

Recommendations: Take once or not more than twice, be aware of your caffeine intake, never take it if you will not go into increased activity or for alertness, you might experience palpitation, hyperactivity or increased sweating etc. (symptoms may manifest in physical form) Drink good amounts of fluid.

Will I recommend it?: i might, if you have extra budget
the reviewer is a 26 y/o, 5'6 in height and 165lbs in weight.
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Comments

  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    So maintain weight lang ang nagawa sayo nito?
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    yep, before workout lang take ko nito, pero pansin ko mabilis ako magpawis parang nagcardio na during warm up. hinde ko pwede itake everyday since pumapasok ako sa school at aircon so basically useless..
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    ^bakit naging useless? hindi naman sa pagpapawis ang effectivity ng fat burners ah
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    clev wrote:
    hinde ko pwede itake everyday since pumapasok ako sa school at aircon so basically useless..

    How come it became useless once you are in an air-conditioned environment?
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Sayang ok sana start ng reviews mo dahil detailed at may pics pa.
    Kaya lang I think may mga dapat ka pang malaman muna sa mga tinatake mo, kung para saan sila at kung para saan yung mga ingredients na nasa supp na yun para mas mabigyan mo ng magandang review.
    Gaya na lng ng pawis na yan..
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    thank you sa reply..ganito, napansin ko mabilis ako pawisan, hinde kasi ako pwede pawisan then papasok ako sa aircon room. well para saken, bale wala rin thermogenic effect kung nasa cold environment, unlike sa gym.. well that's for me

    @allen101 - kung tinutukoy nyo appetite suppression, it doesn't work well for me as i need to eat every lunch.. iba kasi appetite suppresion vs hunger.. kahit walang gana nararamdaman ko pa rin gutom, para saken mahirap magconcentrate pag gutom plus me high caffeine, dun ako naninginig (because of epi during hypoglycemia). ok, na ako sa meal kesa not to take meal at all hinde ako agad tataba doon. mentality ko, bawiin ko na lang sa gym. re sa pawis, i admit wala ako magandang parameter dyaan kundi yun experience ko vs hydroxycut, lipo6 vs sa plain workout.. (i am not promoting lipo6) tnx sa reply
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    At least we're clear na opinion mo lang ung pagiging useless ng fat burners coz if you're saying it from a general point of view you are completely missing the whole point of thermogenics.

    nakak confuse kasi ung statement eh since it is a review might as well cover points that seem to be misleading such as this.
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    @clev: wrong timing ka lang sa pagtake nyan bro. pagdating ng panahon at nasa tamang condition ka na, try mo ulit yan :)
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    So you are measuring the thermic effect of this supplement through sweating? No sweating means no effect at all? I highly doubt that.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but more sweat doesn't mean more thermic effect. You can still reap the benefits even at rest or not sweating at all.
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    monching11 wrote:
    At least we're clear na opinion mo lang ung pagiging useless ng fat burners coz if you're saying it from a general point of view you are completely missing the whole point of thermogenics.

    nakak confuse kasi ung statement eh since it is a review might as well cover points that seem to be misleading such as this.

    Ive reviewed the post, wala ako nasabing useless but i said over-rated (you might as well take other supplements na lang) . Isa lang nagustohan kong claims, you'll just need one tab and its ok..
    @clev: wrong timing ka lang sa pagtake nyan bro. pagdating ng panahon at nasa tamang condition ka na, try mo ulit yan

    sige ittry ko yan, pero ano ibig sabihin ng pagdating ng tamang panahon?
    So you are measuring the thermic effect of this supplement through sweating? No sweating means no effect at all? I highly doubt that.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but more sweat doesn't mean more thermic effect. You can still reap the benefits even at rest or not sweating at all.

    reviews is based on my personal experience (observation). yes, i agree you'll sweat even without this supplement. correct if me if im wrong, i experience sweating because of increased body temperature because of increased metabolism (energy=heat). yun ang pagkakaintindi ko, sa thermogenic effect. meron ba kayo maisuggest na magandang parameter? eto lang mapapansin ko mas mabilis ako pawisan
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    clev wrote:
    hinde ko pwede itake everyday since pumapasok ako sa school at aircon so basically useless..

    How come it became useless once you are in an air-conditioned environment?


    This is still part of your review.
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    monching11 wrote:
    clev wrote:
    hinde ko pwede itake everyday since pumapasok ako sa school at aircon so basically useless..

    How come it became useless once you are in an air-conditioned environment?


    This is still part of your review.

    ah ok, so i get where this is coming from. medyo na mislead nga kita, no its not useless per se its just that i can't maximize it. i was thinking of something else.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    No, you did not mislead me since i am very AWARE about thermogenics and fatburners. I've put way more research than you have and I certainly know that sweating is just an effect of it.

    What I am saying here is there are a lot of newbies who will read this review of yours, and misleading posts like this will surely be confusing to them.
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    cge go on, tignan ko ano talaga alam mo sa fat burners. continue topic bago ko isarado at mis leading sa noobs.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Init na naman ulo mo papa!
    Ahahaha relax lang
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    san na picture naten hahaha!
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    gaano ba ka effective ito? dba pwde naman daanin sa natural ang fat burning?
  • StannisStannis Posts: 1,377
    Siguro yung mga tao sa mamalimig na lugar ay di nasusunogan ng taba, obese siguro sila.

    Tsaka pala yung mga swimmer di sila pinagpapawisan kaya siguro ang bubundat nila.... hmmm may point.
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    antayin naten cya.
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Libre pala thermogenic supplement dito sa disyerto, tindi ng pawis ko tuwing lumalabas ng bahay eh.
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    Jettie wrote:
    gaano ba ka effective ito? dba pwde naman daanin sa natural ang fat burning?
    Yes pwede naman daananin sa natural ang fat burning. gaano ka effective? i have in no way to quantify (with all honesty) the effectivity of the product, you may still want to consult/compare other reviews or claims.
    Siguro yung mga tao sa mamalimig na lugar ay di nasusunogan ng taba, obese siguro sila.

    Tsaka pala yung mga swimmer di sila pinagpapawisan kaya siguro ang bubundat nila.... hmmm may point.

    iba naman ang mechanism niyan sir. medyo stereotypical masyado. generality speaking masmataas ang metabolism ng nasa malalamig na lugar (that's why we shiver to produce heat)

    at ang swimmer pinapawisan din. i know you're being sarcastic.

    kung tinutukoy nyo yung pagsabi ko ng hinde ko ginagamit dahil may aircon, hinde sya kasama sa review ko on top. because it is a matter of personal preference, (nagiging pawisin, at hinde ako komportable). if you wan't to do it, then go.
    Libre pala thermogenic supplement dito sa disyerto, tindi ng pawis ko tuwing lumalabas ng bahay eh.
    i think, its going of topic. ang pawis pag mainit, defense mechanism (cooling) yan ng body due to evaporation.
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    @clev: well, overall ok lang naman ang review mo para sa akin kasi based naman yan sa experience mo. gaya nga ng sabi ko na may tamang panahon para gumamit ng fat burner. iba iba kasi ang pwede maging effect nyan sa katawan natin depende sa condition at situation. example, iba malamang ang result ng FB sa 15% bf versus sa 30% bf na user, iba din effect nyan sa weekend warrior versus sa hardcore lifters at lalong iba ang effect nyan sa may good nutrition sa wala. So wala talagang valid pros and cons ito para sakin kasi lahat yan ay case to case basis. kadalasan kasi yung accute effects lang ang napapansin at hinahanap ng mga supplement users. pwede kasing abutin ka ng 2-3 bottles nyan bago ka makakuha ng obvious results, so malamang iba ang magiging review mo nito ngayon compared after using it for a long time. practical ba? worth it? effective? lahat yan depende sa individual experience at results :)
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    @badass_vinch

    ty, same thought. usually personal review nga ito (pardon me kung me mali akong pag gamit), hinde rin ako hardcore lifter, occasional runner, at iba kasi lifestyle ko at ibinabagay ko rin sa akin. (student kasi ako, at madalas laging puyat, pagod i'm stressing this out so readers may wan't to compare). and like someone who reads reviews before trying a product, i don't rely solely on one review (like most reviewers on the internet, would base on personal experience but without exposing some vitals of the user).

    i think, malinaw ko naman sinabi na it varies, and recommendations given (from someone who took it), i did not express that you will experience all of it, but instead i said "you might"

    Fat Loss: 8/10 - Might give it a good 8, since it depends on person to person. But for me who's not working out much (good once-trice a week) it helps me maintain my weight.

    Recommendations: Take once or not more than twice, be aware of your caffeine intake, never take it if you will not go into increased activity or for alertness, you might experience palpitation, hyperactivity or increased sweating etc. (symptoms may manifest in physical form) Drink good amounts of fluid.

    for those who say that i mislead (i pm'ed you personally), much better if you point it out because i myself is confused of which is misleading.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    I guess that defeats the purpose of this review. It was not used as recommended dosage and usage as advised.

    To think that he didn't even detail what eating habits and training regimens he underwent while taking the fat burner. It was just used to "maintain" his weight alone.

    If your post wasn't misleading (I hope I have quoted you well enough which was it) you wouldn't garner replies coming from other members as well.
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    maganda siguro ay irevise ni clev ang review nya at ifactor-in ang training at diet and other related variables para mas malinaw kung beneficial ba ang product sa fitness level nya. kulang lang siguro sa introduction kung pano sya nagcome up with the ratings.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    ^It should be like that.

    @clev

    We are moderators here to moderate content for the benefit of everyone. Not saying that this thread should be closed but you need to DEFEND your point on the given subject. We don't need to use the PM system we can discuss it here.

    We are in a pinoy BODYBUILDING forum. Giving out reviews for certain supplements in good faith, meaning training and nutrition is in check while taking the supplement.

    assuming that the fat burner would do magic on its own and reasoning out that you are a student,stressed and any other emotional stuff that you are going thru seems like very biased to me (well, reviews are) . As mentioned over and over that supplements are case to case basis, but in my opinion this is "maka-review lang" kind of review.
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    ok ive seen your point.

    maybe my review is useless, even though i may want to revise this "maka-review" lang post, you may wan't to direct to a supplement review in this forum that "might" serve as my model. (meron po ba tayong standard?)

    inilagay ko rin ang sarili ko na "kung ako magbabasa ng review" ano ano ang kailangan ko sa isang review.. sorry, im no expert sa reviews, pardon my insufficiency. ive put pictures at least for reference, what the item looks like at least. (you may want to identify it the item is fake). I did not post this review as sole reference, but a review you may want to consider (if not, that would definitely fine as i did not write a review to get noticed or get paid). if you notice, i did not put "lost X amount of fat", most claims are highly questionable.

    hinde ko na siguro, i expound lahat because that would bring more questions "why not this and that" that would bring this review more complicated.

    i tried the product as advised however it doesn't suits me well (again, im NOT saying its not effective but maybe way over for me to handle and give reviews about it). so, this maybe for people might take the same that i do. let's admit it, some of us may not be as "hardcore" as anybody else, but this is just a supplement and can be highly individualize to suit our need. this set-up may work for me, for some may not.

    if there are things that i may be lacking, i can direct you to "better" reviews to help you out.
    http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/Nutrex/Lipo_6_Black_Ultra_Concentrate/
    http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=13122469

    @monching11
    my review might disappoint you, maybe i could use a little hand if you may. i've read you also took lipo6 (i dont know if its the same), you may want to share your experiences also.
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    That is why dalton and I are giving you the opportunity to redeem yourself. Our questions and replies are some of the things you can use to defend your review.

    Claiming x fat lost. You did not even use the product as advised.

    Putting your REVIEW in a forum and expecting no one would question how did you use and what was the effect to you is completely out of this world (or this forum at least).

    Yeah not everybody that registers here are hardcores. But dont you think you are not in the right mindset to take this fatburner let alone this review?

    Ive used lipo6 before and i encourage you to read my journal and see my posts where I mention that the greatest mistake I made was cutting without sufficient mass to cut from. I am naturally skinny btw.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Clev - Linawin ko lang ang purpose ko ng pagtatanong sayo ay para makakuha pa ng info about sa product. Dahil ako, pumapasok din minsan sa isip ko na sumubok ng fat burner for my cut.
    Alam kong diet is still number 1 for fat loss pero I believe fat burners still have their place.
    Like maybe mababa na ang bf mo and you're stuck for ilang weeks na, at gusto pa magpababa ng bodyfat, maaring mas makatulong ito.
    Or some other cases na mas magiging effective to.
    Siyempre sino ba naman ayaw mag loose ng bf dba?
    Pero siyempre mahirap naman basta gumastos kung hindi naman worth it. Iba kasi to e, hindi kagaya ng whey na staple talaga sa mga fitness enthusiast.
    Kaya din siguro dumami tanong dito (bukod sa mga gusto icorrect yung ibang misleading post para sa noobs) kasi may mga interesado din gumamit ng mga fat burners pero dito kasi sa forum iilan palang yata ang mga nakagamit ng ganito kaya siguro naghahanap din kami ng reliable reviews.
  • clevclev Posts: 59
    monching11 wrote:
    Claiming x fat lost. You did not even use the product as advised.

    Ive used lipo6 before and i encourage you to read my journal and see my posts where I mention that the greatest mistake I made was cutting without sufficient mass to cut from. I am naturally skinny btw.

    i didn't. That's why siguro maintained ang wieght ko 160-165 (180-185 ako before).. i gave the review as is, how i took it, and what results it gave.. like, hinde lahat din ng results/reviews in the net was taken as advised some are giving exaggerating results. and ty. might as well read your journal too.
    Clev - Linawin ko lang ang purpose ko ng pagtatanong sayo ay para makakuha pa ng info about sa product. Dahil ako, pumapasok din minsan sa isip ko na sumubok ng fat burner for my cut.
    Alam kong diet is still number 1 for fat loss pero I believe fat burners still have their place.
    Like maybe mababa na ang bf mo and you're stuck for ilang weeks na, at gusto pa magpababa ng bodyfat, maaring mas makatulong ito.
    Or some other cases na mas magiging effective to.
    Siyempre sino ba naman ayaw mag loose ng bf dba?
    Pero siyempre mahirap naman basta gumastos kung hindi naman worth it. Iba kasi to e, hindi kagaya ng whey na staple talaga sa mga fitness enthusiast.
    Kaya din siguro dumami tanong dito (bukod sa mga gusto icorrect yung ibang misleading post para sa noobs) kasi may mga interesado din gumamit ng mga fat burners pero dito kasi sa forum iilan palang yata ang mga nakagamit ng ganito kaya siguro naghahanap din kami ng reliable reviews.

    agree ako dun, diet and exercise pa rin. kahit minsan ako rin nadadala ng mga "hype" ng fatburners. facts were given as is and reviews based on "my" experience, and based on how i used it (hinde ko iyon tinatago). you can still burn fats without this its already given. re: loosing more body fat, i don't want to take more than 1 (like as directed in the bottle to take 2, kasi nasubukan ko na at hinde ko pa kayang dalhin), given that factor it might yield far more better results if i took it as directed. ang comparison ko lang is my experience when taking it vs when im not. i use it to supplement my needs, precautions are given for those who want to take more.

    you are free to try the product pa rin and give honest result, if not convinced with my review or free to consult others who took it and ask for their opinions.

    re whey, same lang din when ive seen reviews re PM7(whey). some negatives and good reviews, but i never shun away from thinking to try it (just because there is doubt, i wont. siguro curiosity's sake na rin). Para lang talaga malaman kung effective eh kung masusubukan mo ng personal. gaya ng madalas sinasabi: "kung hinde sigurado, wag subukan, wala naman pilitan"
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