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  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Rustan's> All

    heheheheh
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    hahah biased ka insan LOL!, well true magaganda lahat and mukhan maarte din :P
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    ^hahahaha believe me insan. Dito pag napapadaaan ako sa HR dito ung mga nag a-apply pa lang eh panalo na hahahaha
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    bigyan mo naman kami kung ganun ng makikilala hahaha
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    @ monching11

    oo nga, wag ka madamot

    bigyan mo ako para naman ma-apply ko ang DL strength ko sa "standing" position. ha ha :)
  • StannisStannis Posts: 1,377
    Pede akong maging HR, meron akong casting couch.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDOkJarCBtnRc-uLLdj_GJssHWxpu700H3wrZyODi8GjEuUhCP

    ^ dyan ako minsan gumagawa ng conditioning workout pag non-training day ko :)
  • StannisStannis Posts: 1,377
    Saan galing yang pic ng opis ko?
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    sarap talaga ng Ineng's BBQ :)

    tatlong 12-inch ang kinain ko for lunch

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZpLmqDQgnrzbS-WOGzPFVe7K_TFSu67kPBxMQx-p9YotaxxV4
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    bro, sa market market ba yang inengs? wala na kasi akong makitang ibang branch nila parang nagsara na lahat! yung suka yung masarap :)
  • monching11monching11 Posts: 7,273
    Hahahahaha. LOL. Sige pag naging friend ko na sila sa FB (ung mga high end chicks, lasalitsa atenista assumptionista) iPM ko sa inyo pics. Pero for now kasi nasa "getting to know" stage pa lang at awkward pa i-add ko sila at baka isipin nilang patay na patay ako sa kanila (sa iba applicable lol).

    Dami ditong class S at Class A na halimaw. Ung iba nag mo-model at naga-appear sa commercials/ads.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    @ badass

    oo, market! market! branch

    masarap talaga BBQ ng Ineng's pero masakit sa bulsa :)

    hanap na nga ako ng asawa para may magluluto na ng pagkain ko. he he
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565
    bro, sa market market ba yang inengs? wala na kasi akong makitang ibang branch nila parang nagsara na lahat! yung suka yung masarap :)

    meron pa silang branch sa sm north
  • badass_vinchbadass_vinch Posts: 4,471
    ^ hahaha ang layo nga lang sakin kaya pala wala nako makita. nagsara kasi yung sa makati ave.
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    AUGUST 30, 2013 (Friday)

    body weight - 161 lbs (measured while in the gym)

    training time start - 11:20 AM
    training time end - 12:10 PM


    Main Exercise 1 - Conventional Dead Lift
    warm up 1 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 2 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 3 - 102 lbs @ 1 reps
    1st set - 172 lbs @ 6 reps
    2nd set - 142 lbs @ 8 reps

    ^ Finally, I have broken my past record before the deload

    182 lbs @ 3 reps = 193 lbs 1RM
    172 lbs @ 6 reps = 200 lbs 1RM

    Estimated 1RM increased by 3.6%

    For 3 consecutive nights (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday), my sleep is only 5 to 6 hours. Maybe I could have lifted more if I had better sleep the past days

    Main Exercise 2 - Push Press
    warm up 1 - 32-lb olympic bar @ 6 reps
    warm up 2 - 42 lbs @ 3 reps
    1st set - 72 lbs @ 3 reps

    ^ I reduced the load (77 lbs to 72 lbs) because I was doing it wrong for the past weeks. According to Starting Strength book, the bar should rest on the shoulders before the jerk from the legs. Failed to complete 6 reps. Thinking of switching to Seated Dumbbell Overhead Press for next week

    Accessory Exercise 1 - Kroc Row
    1st set - 50 lbs @ 13 reps

    Accessory Exercise 2 - Neutral-grip Chin Up
    1st set - bodyweight @ 6 reps


    Overall, I'm still happy that my Dead Lift improved. I hope the progress continues
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    IMO you will see better results by doing 2-3 sets of the accessories, not just 1 set. Also, kroc rows & chins are inferior exercises to improve your dead compared to the array of exercises you have to choose from for posterior chain work dude. Btw, congrats on your progress, however I believe your progress would be more considering the afforementioned. :)
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    @ Big_Dawg

    What compound accessory exercises can you suggest as alternatives for Kroc Row and Chin Up ?

    Thanks
  • Big DawgBig Dawg Posts: 645
    nrg500 wrote:
    @ Big_Dawg

    What compound accessory exercises can you suggest as alternatives for Kroc Row and Chin Up ?

    Thanks

    Rack pulls - place the pins at lower knee level and pack on the weight. You can use MUCH more weight obviously than normal deads. This will get you used to using much heavier weights than normal deads and soon your normal dead will soar. :)
    Good mornings
    Glute/ham raises
    Leg curls (not compound, however hams play major role in pulling and stabilization)

    So for example, one workout perhaps do 2 sets of rack pulls and 2 sets of glute/ham raises. Next workout do 2 sets of good mornings and 2 sets of leg curls. I'm talking about working sets - work hard, don't take it easy just bcoz they are "accessories". :)
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    SEPTEMBER 02, 2013 (Monday)

    body weight - 163 lbs (measured while in the gym)

    training time start - 9:30 AM
    training time end - 10:30 AM


    Main Exercise 1 - Conventional Dead Lift
    warm up 1 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 2 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 3 - 102 lbs @ 1 reps
    1st set - 174.5 lbs @ 6 reps
    2nd set - 144.5 lbs @ 8 reps


    Main Exercise 2 - Flat Barbell Bench Press
    warm up 1 - 82 lbs @ 4 reps
    warm up 2 - 82 lbs @ 4 reps
    1st set - 132 lbs @ 8 reps
    2nd set - 114.5 lbs @ 10 reps


    Accessory Exercise 1 - Neutral-grip Chin Up
    1st set - bodyweight @ 7 reps

    Accessory Exercise 2 - Kroc Row
    1st set - 50 lbs @ 15 reps


    A good workout overall. However, it seems my water intake increased. After the 2 main exercises, my 1-liter water was consumed already. Need to bring more water
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    I don't know if it's just coincidence but I have observed the ff:

    taking creatine monohydrate 1 or 2 hours bedtime makes it difficult for me to fall asleep

    eating Ineng's BBQ 1 or 2 hours before bedtime makes it difficult for me to fall asleep

    Felt like crap yesterday due to losing sleep for 2 consecutive days



    This morning, in a fasted state, I did a few body weight exercises. I weighed 163 lbs

    circuit 1
    chin ups @ 8 reps
    push ups @ 20 reps

    rested a bit (didn't count but I think it was less than 5 minutes)

    circuit 2
    chin ups @ 5 reps
    push ups @ 12 reps


    No rest between chin up and push up. In push up, feet was elevated ~2 feet above the ground
  • bomsbonbomsbon Posts: 194
    nrg500 wrote:
    I don't know if it's just coincidence but I have observed the ff:

    taking creatine monohydrate 1 or 2 hours bedtime makes it difficult for me to fall asleep

    eating Ineng's BBQ 1 or 2 hours before bedtime makes it difficult for me to fall asleep

    Felt like crap yesterday due to losing sleep for 2 consecutive days



    This morning, in a fasted state, I did a few body weight exercises. I weighed 163 lbs

    circuit 1
    chin ups @ 8 reps
    push ups @ 20 reps

    rested a bit (didn't count but I think it was less than 5 minutes)

    circuit 2
    chin ups @ 5 reps
    push ups @ 12 reps


    No rest between chin up and push up. In push up, feet was elevated ~2 feet above the ground

    hindi ba busog na busog ka sir before bedtime kahit 1-2 hours before bedtime ka kumakaen? sa experience ko kasi hirap ako matulog kapag busog talaga kahit 1-2 hours before bedtime ang pagitan,
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    ako pag kakain ko after workout, naghihinalo na ko sa antok lol
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    SEPTEMBER 06, 2013 (Friday)

    body weight - 163 lbs (measured while in the gym)

    training time start - 10:40 AM
    training time end - 11:30 AM


    Main Exercise 1 - Conventional Dead Lift
    warm up 1 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 2 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 3 - 132 lbs @ 1 reps
    1st set - 177 lbs @ 6 reps
    2nd set - 132 lbs @ 8 reps


    Accessory Exercise 1 - Seated Dumbbell Press
    warm up 1 - 15 lbs @ 8 reps
    warm up 2 - 15 lbs @ 4 reps
    1st set - 30 lbs @ 6 reps
    2nd set - 25 lbs @ 8 reps


    Accessory Exercise 2 - Neutral-grip Chin Up
    1st set - bodyweight @ 7 reps


    Accessory Exercise 3 - Kroc Row
    1st set - 50 lbs @ 11 reps


    I was only able to improve the Conventional Dead Lift. The other lifts suffered probably due to lack of sleep these past days

    Still happy, though, coz the Conventional Dead Lift is my main concern right now

    Rewarded myself with fruit cake :)
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    hindi ba busog na busog ka sir before bedtime kahit 1-2 hours before bedtime ka kumakaen? sa experience ko kasi hirap ako matulog kapag busog talaga kahit 1-2 hours before bedtime ang pagitan,

    di naman ako nahihirapan matulog ng busog

    kagabi lang ang last meal ko 1 hour before bedtime ay chicken + 200g of carbs from white rice + 2 slices of fruit cake


    siguro, may chemical lang talaga yung Ineng's BBQ that interferes with melatonin (the hormone which makes us fall asleep)
  • nrg500nrg500 Posts: 1,233
    SEPTEMBER 09, 2013 (Monday)

    body weight - 163 lbs (measured while in the gym)

    training time start - 9:30 AM
    training time end - 10:30 AM


    Main Exercise 1 - Conventional Dead Lift
    warm up 1 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    warm up 2 - 102 lbs @ 3 reps
    1st set - 122 lbs @ 8 reps
    2nd set - 112 lbs @ 9 reps
    3rd set - 102 lbs @ 10 reps


    Main Exercise 2 - Flat Barbell Bench Press
    warm up 1 - 82 lbs @ 4 reps
    warm up 2 - 82 lbs @ 4 reps
    1st set - 134.5 lbs @ 6 reps
    2nd set - 122 lbs @ 7 reps
    3rd set - 112 lbs @ 8 reps


    Accessory Exercise 1 - Chin Up
    1st set - body weight + 20 lbs @ 4 reps
    2nd set - body weight @ 6 reps


    I tried to do a Dynamic Effort for Conventional Dead Lift. I used 60% of 1RM and tried to do 10 to 12 reps for the 1st set. It felt relatively heavy and was only able to do 8 reps. I don't know if I was just not well rested. Before my training, I had trouble waking up. The alarm was ringing but I feel very sleepy, still wanted to sleep more but I forced to get up since I have to cook my meal for the day before training. I remember not having enough sleep last Saturday night due to sex. In the morning, I hit another round. Maybe sex sex sex + lack of sleep is not a good idea


    Out of curiosity, I checked my training log to see how much I have improved when I implemented a deload


    Conventional Dead Lift
    March 03, 2013 - 172 lbs @ 4 reps - estimated 1RM of 188 lbs (body weight @ 150 lbs)
    July 19, 2013 - 117 lbs @ 5 reps - estimated 1RM of 132 lbs (body weight @ 155 lbs)
    September 06, 2013 - 177 lbs @ 6 reps - estimated 1RM of 206 lbs (body weight @ 163 lbs)

    I increased my 1RM by 18 lbs but my body weight increased by 13 lbs. Comparing March and September, my 1RM increased by 9.6%. I don't know how to asses it since I stopped training Conventional Dead Lift in March and resumed it last July when I deloaded


    Bench Press
    June 14, 2013 - 147 lbs @ 7 reps - estimated 1RM of 176 lbs (body weight @ 155 lbs)
    July 10, 2013 - 122 lbs @ 6 reps - estimated 1RM of 142 lbs (body weight @ 159 lbs)
    September 02, 2013 - 132 lbs @ 8 reps - estimated 1RM of 164 lbs (body weight @ 163 lbs)

    Bench Press has not yet recovered even after the deload last July 2013.


    Chin Up
    May 20, 2013 - body weight + 15 lbs @ 7 reps - estimated 1RM of 200 lbs (body weight @ 152 lbs)
    September 09, 2013 - body weiight + 20 lbs @ 4 reps - estimated 1RM of 200 lbs (body weight @ 163 lbs)

    While the 1RM remained the same, I was actually weaker than before. In May 2013 my 1RM is 1.32x of body weight. This September 2013, my 1RM is only 1.23x of body weight


    Only the Conventional Dead Lift improved. Other lifts are weaker than before

    I think I need to take a break. I don't know how long :(
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Bro, this might be a little harsh but you seem to over analyze everything. You over complicate everything which in fact is very simple. Lift, eat, rest, repeat. Once you get stuck, add MORE (pun intended). Lift MORE, eat MORE, rest MORE, repeat.

    Now, if you aren't achieving your goals with your current methods then there is definitely something wrong. Don't you agree? Find the problem, be man enough to face it and deal with it (no lame excuses), then move on.

    Shake things up. CHANGE. Try some crazy stuff. Nuff said.
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763
    agree with sir riddler, parehas tayo naging technical about this pero you are waaaaay toooooooooooo calculating everything.

    hehe
  • I for one am not surprised at your lack of results based on your routine. I offered advice before which you didn't take, so good luck.
  • riddler wrote:
    Shake things up. CHANGE. Try some crazy stuff. Nuff said.

    I agree with this.
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/programs/a-lion-in-iron-its-not-that-complicated-part-4/

    Good read regarding your situation right now. Check out bullet points 2, 3, 4 and 6. Thoughts?
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