ON 100% GS Whey or ON Pro Complex?

jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
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Ito yung first 3 months ko mag-gym. Yup! I actually gained some muscles but I want more. I mean medyo maliit pa kasi sya compare sa mga basketball players na nkikita ko. Braso palang nila sobrang laki na. Ano po kaya sa tingin nyo ang mas mgnda for bulking? Is it ON GS Whey or ON Pro Complex? (or ON Pro Complex Gainer??)..I want to gain muscles not fats.

Isa lang po kaya kong bilin. And if meron po kayo marecommend na pwede i-mix or pwede isabay na i-take katulad ng creatine powder or amino 2222 or fish oil post lang po kayo. Comments/suggestion are much appreciated. (:

And saan pong store sa CnC maganda bumili? Yung subok nyo na po at pinagkakatiwalaan? May cp number po ba sila? Paki-post naman po.

Magkano po kaya yung 5lbs ng gs whey and pro complex sa CnC? and tig-ilang servings po yun?

I already know the difference between whey protein and protein blends.. i just want to know yung ups and downs ng dlwang product na ito. at kung ano ang mas mgnda for bulking and yung bagay sa working student na katulad ko (schedule).

***[saan po ako makakabili ng ON shaker? And how much?]***

If wrong thread po paki-lipat nalang or paki-delete nalang po itong post ko.

SALAMAT PO! (:

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  • LEUCINELEUCINE Posts: 264
    Sir Jtachh

    I want to gain muscles not fats
    Matagal ka na bang nagbubuhat, kase pag matagal na,kelangan mo ng mamili, KUNG GAIN MUSCLE o Maging Shredded,
    isa lang dapat
    pero pag bago-bago ka palang kaya mong gawin sabay yan, newbie gains ung tawag

    ON GS Whey or ON Pro Complex?
    ON GS Whey kunin mo,puede mo kasing gawin GAINER ung ON WHEY e

    -1 scoop of whey
    -1-2 tbsp peanut butter
    -100 grams oatmeal
    -100ml low or non fat milk

    High calories na yan
    basta wag mong gawin maxadong komplikado ung mga supps mo,

    creatine powder or amino 2222 or fish oil
    kung may pangbili ka,kuha ka ng CREATINE MONOHYDRATE, kuha ka nung econimic price, marca lang kase ung makukuha mo pag bumili ka ng mamahalin
    ung pang bili mo ng amino,ibili mo nalang ng multi-vitamins at fish oil

    Sir share mo naman ung
    difference between whey protein and protein blends
    please Paps
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    LEUCINE wrote:
    Sir Jtachh

    I want to gain muscles not fats
    Matagal ka na bang nagbubuhat, kase pag matagal na,kelangan mo ng mamili, KUNG GAIN MUSCLE o Maging Shredded,
    isa lang dapat
    pero pag bago-bago ka palang kaya mong gawin sabay yan, newbie gains ung tawag

    ON GS Whey or ON Pro Complex?
    ON GS Whey kunin mo,puede mo kasing gawin GAINER ung ON WHEY e

    -1 scoop of whey
    -1-2 tbsp peanut butter
    -100 grams oatmeal
    -100ml low or non fat milk

    High calories na yan
    basta wag mong gawin maxadong komplikado ung mga supps mo,

    creatine powder or amino 2222 or fish oil
    kung may pangbili ka,kuha ka ng CREATINE MONOHYDRATE, kuha ka nung econimic price, marca lang kase ung makukuha mo pag bumili ka ng mamahalin
    ung pang bili mo ng amino,ibili mo nalang ng multi-vitamins at fish oil

    Sir share mo naman ung
    difference between whey protein and protein blends
    please Paps
    Bali 5months pa lang po ako nag ggym. Okay sir I'll go for GS Whey. At nabasa ko na 28 servings lang pala yung 5lbs ng pro complex. Mukang ayos po yung suggestion nyo na gainer sir! At mukang masarap. Hehe.

    Ano pong marca? Tinitignan ko nga din po yung creatine powder ng ON. Okay po kaya yun? Yung BCAA's po okay din po ba un?

    Base lang po sa nalalaman ko. And GS whey is 100% whey protein. yung pro complex nman is consist of different protein source (whey, cassein, egg etc.).. So ang pro complex po is mas matagal maabsorb. Tama po ba? (:
  • LEUCINELEUCINE Posts: 264
    jTachh wrote:

    Bali 5months pa lang po ako nag ggym. Okay sir I'll go for GS Whey. At nabasa ko na 28 servings lang pala yung 5lbs ng pro complex. Mukang ayos po yung suggestion nyo na gainer sir! At mukang masarap. Hehe.

    Ano pong marca? Tinitignan ko nga din po yung creatine powder ng ON. Okay po kaya yun? Yung BCAA's po okay din po ba un?

    Base lang po sa nalalaman ko. And GS whey is 100% whey protein. yung pro complex nman is consist of different protein source (whey, cassein, egg etc.).. So ang pro complex po is mas matagal maabsorb. Tama po ba? (:

    Ayos 5 months ka na and counting diba?

    Kung may pang bili ng "ON" cge lang,

    Hindi ko masasagot kung ok ba ung "BCAA" e,wala kase akong info dun at di rin ako nag-b-BCAA

    Tatlo ung rerecomend ko sayo supps,basics pero sure win ka
    1. Whey protein
    2. Creatine Monohydrate
    3. Good pre-workout
  • 197lbs197lbs Posts: 331
    sir if I may share, focus more on whole foods sana

    and for BCAAs, makikita mo more ang effectiveness niya if you train fasted
  • 19PreDaTor6819PreDaTor68 Posts: 777
    BCAA helps preserve lean mass lalo na kung fasted training.. yung ON may bcaa na yun
  • 54m0n654m0n6 Posts: 230
    Bcaa prng protein n walang calories. Gnun nlng icpn m. D m kailangan un
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    LEUCINE wrote:
    Ayos 5 months ka na and counting diba?

    Kung may pang bili ng "ON" cge lang,

    Hindi ko masasagot kung ok ba ung "BCAA" e,wala kase akong info dun at di rin ako nag-b-BCAA

    Tatlo ung rerecomend ko sayo supps,basics pero sure win ka
    1. Whey protein
    2. Creatine Monohydrate
    3. Good pre-workout
    Kailan po ba dapat itake ang creatine? And ano po ang basically nagagawa nya? Can I mix creatine with whey protein? Im planning to buy din po kasi.
    197lbs wrote:
    sir if I may share, focus more on whole foods sana

    and for BCAAs, makikita mo more ang effectiveness niya if you train fasted
    Hmm.. actually i eat alot of food. whole foods. Eh kaso minsan syempre wlang time. katulad sa umaga kapg papasok ako sa school minsan di na po ako nakakakaen ng breakfast.
    19PreDaTor68 wrote:
    BCAA helps preserve lean mass lalo na kung fasted training.. yung ON may bcaa na yun
    Okay thank you! Creatine na nga lang! hehe
    54m0n6 wrote:
    Bcaa prng protein n walang calories. Gnun nlng icpn m. D m kailangan un
    Okay. Thank you sir! (:Can I post another question in the same thread? Para po hindi masyado makalat. Hehe!

    Whey protein must be taken before and after workout, right? So ano pong supplement ang dapat kong i-take before matulog? Para po maiwasan yung muscle catabolism..?
  • 197lbs197lbs Posts: 331
    sir di po totoo na if you go to sleep may muscle catabolism agad.. it all depends sa nutrition niyo

    whey protein intake kung kelan convenient sa inyo, the role of protein supplements is to compliment your diet or up your protein intake to meet your daily macros

    if you have trouble sleeping then take supplements that helps you to get a better sleep

    paki correct and add nalang po mga masters
  • siddfit101siddfit101 Posts: 423
    if gusto mo tlga may supps before bed, add casein to your stack. kaso ginto yan! lol... grbe mahal n nya now! or pede milk nlng... or make a protein shake, whey base. add milk, oats, peanut butter, fruits etc...
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    197lbs wrote:
    sir di po totoo na if you go to sleep may muscle catabolism agad.. it all depends sa nutrition niyo

    whey protein intake kung kelan convenient sa inyo, the role of protein supplements is to compliment your diet or up your protein intake to meet your daily macros

    if you have trouble sleeping then take supplements that helps you to get a better sleep

    paki correct and add nalang po mga masters
    Ay gnun po ba? Takot kasi ako, bka kaya medyo hirap na lumaki eh dhil nangyyari ang muscle catabolism. Bago lang po kasi ako kaya di ko pa alam ang mga myths and facts. Hehe. TNX!
    siddfit101 wrote:
    if gusto mo tlga may supps before bed, add casein to your stack. kaso ginto yan! lol... grbe mahal n nya now! or pede milk nlng... or make a protein shake, whey base. add milk, oats, peanut butter, fruits etc...
    Oo nga po eh. Nakita ko yung ON 100% GS Cassein, 2.6k 28 servings lang. Mag whey nalang ako tapos mix ko soya milk. Okay po ba yun? Salmat po! (:

    _______________________________________________________-

    Kailan po ba dapat itake ang creatine? and ilang beses po dpat yun itake? pwede po ba yun ihalo sa whey? Nabasa ko po kasi na unflavored yung creatine.
  • 54m0n654m0n6 Posts: 230
    5g/day. before or after workout

    some recommend loading some doesn't. pwede ihalo sa whey. pwede mo ihalo sa kahit san. pwede rn saksak m nlng agad sa bunganga mo
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    54m0n6 wrote:
    5g/day. before or after workout

    some recommend loading some doesn't. pwede ihalo sa whey. pwede mo ihalo sa kahit san. pwede rn saksak m nlng agad sa bunganga mo

    AHAHAHA! isaksak tlga sir? hehe

    Okay po. so ang gagawin ko nlng is 2 scoops of creatine ihahalo ko sa whey after workout. Pero pano po kapag non-workout days? do i still need to consume 5g of creatine? and sa whey po pano din kpag non-workout days? Tnx po!
  • dimzon03dimzon03 Posts: 1,552
    kung sa whey...tuloy padin ang inom pag non WO days...kasi yung muscles mo ay still in recovery pero sa creatine hindi ko alam eh...hindi ako nagte-take nyan..hantay nalng sa reply ng iba:sport:
  • 54m0n654m0n6 Posts: 230
    yup kahit non workout days take mo yan.
  • siddfit101siddfit101 Posts: 423
    jTachh wrote:
    197lbs wrote:
    sir di po totoo na if you go to sleep may muscle catabolism agad.. it all depends sa nutrition niyo

    whey protein intake kung kelan convenient sa inyo, the role of protein supplements is to compliment your diet or up your protein intake to meet your daily macros

    if you have trouble sleeping then take supplements that helps you to get a better sleep

    paki correct and add nalang po mga masters
    Ay gnun po ba? Takot kasi ako, bka kaya medyo hirap na lumaki eh dhil nangyyari ang muscle catabolism. Bago lang po kasi ako kaya di ko pa alam ang mga myths and facts. Hehe. TNX!
    siddfit101 wrote:
    if gusto mo tlga may supps before bed, add casein to your stack. kaso ginto yan! lol... grbe mahal n nya now! or pede milk nlng... or make a protein shake, whey base. add milk, oats, peanut butter, fruits etc...
    Oo nga po eh. Nakita ko yung ON 100% GS Cassein, 2.6k 28 servings lang. Mag whey nalang ako tapos mix ko soya milk. Okay po ba yun? Salmat po! (:

    _______________________________________________________-

    Kailan po ba dapat itake ang creatine? and ilang beses po dpat yun itake? pwede po ba yun ihalo sa whey? Nabasa ko po kasi na unflavored yung creatine.

    casein 2,6k for 28servings?? saan? sobrang mahal nun! baka 1,6k sya. 2lbs yun... 2,9k kasi huli tanong ko e, 4lbs yun.- ok lng mix w/soya milk. pero for me. mas ok if pure milk talaga. low fat o non fat mas ok. if wala ka nyan e khit full cream milk pede rin. tpos w/ oats, peanut butter etc...
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    dimzon03 wrote:
    kung sa whey...tuloy padin ang inom pag non WO days...kasi yung muscles mo ay still in recovery pero sa creatine hindi ko alam eh...hindi ako nagte-take nyan..hantay nalng sa reply ng iba:sport:
    54m0n6 wrote:
    yup kahit non workout days take mo yan.
    Salamt po sir dimzon03 at sir 54m0n6..
    kung sa workout days 2 scoops tinetake kong whey, kpag non-workout days 2 scoops pa din po ba? or isang scoop lang? i-take ko nlng every morning?
    siddfit101 wrote:
    casein 2,6k for 28servings?? saan? sobrang mahal nun! baka 1,6k sya. 2lbs yun... 2,9k kasi huli tanong ko e, 4lbs yun.- ok lng mix w/soya milk. pero for me. mas ok if pure milk talaga. low fat o non fat mas ok. if wala ka nyan e khit full cream milk pede rin. tpos w/ oats, peanut butter etc...
    Ay! Opo sir. sorry po mali ako.. tama po kayo 4lbs po un! hehe. Diba po mas mataas ang protein content ng soya milk compare sa ibang milk? (except sa almond milk).. pano nyo po nasabing mas okay imix ang whey with pure milk?
  • siddfit101siddfit101 Posts: 423
    jTachh wrote:
    dimzon03 wrote:
    kung sa whey...tuloy padin ang inom pag non WO days...kasi yung muscles mo ay still in recovery pero sa creatine hindi ko alam eh...hindi ako nagte-take nyan..hantay nalng sa reply ng iba:sport:
    54m0n6 wrote:
    yup kahit non workout days take mo yan.
    Salamt po sir dimzon03 at sir 54m0n6..
    kung sa workout days 2 scoops tinetake kong whey, kpag non-workout days 2 scoops pa din po ba? or isang scoop lang? i-take ko nlng every morning?
    siddfit101 wrote:
    casein 2,6k for 28servings?? saan? sobrang mahal nun! baka 1,6k sya. 2lbs yun... 2,9k kasi huli tanong ko e, 4lbs yun.- ok lng mix w/soya milk. pero for me. mas ok if pure milk talaga. low fat o non fat mas ok. if wala ka nyan e khit full cream milk pede rin. tpos w/ oats, peanut butter etc...
    Ay! Opo sir. sorry po mali ako.. tama po kayo 4lbs po un! hehe. Diba po mas mataas ang protein content ng soya milk compare sa ibang milk? (except sa almond milk).. pano nyo po nasabing mas okay imix ang whey with pure milk?

    4lbs of casein for 2,6k?? san? ON din ba sya?- sa milk kc, 3 tbsp lng 3 9g of protein na... ano b sa soy? saka dapt moderate lng ang intake ng soy protein... saka parang mas mahal pa ang soymilk kesa sa mga powder milk out there... or khit pa sa mga fresh milk.- at ang casein kc e galing din sa milk.. or may casein din ang milk. galing sila sa cows milk. so for me, mas ok ang milk vs soyamilk! its up to you if ano gusto mo bro... kaw nman iinun nyan e... hehe.
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    siddfit101 wrote:
    4lbs of casein for 2,6k?? san? ON din ba sya?- sa milk kc, 3 tbsp lng 3 9g of protein na... ano b sa soy? saka dapt moderate lng ang intake ng soy protein... saka parang mas mahal pa ang soymilk kesa sa mga powder milk out there... or khit pa sa mga fresh milk.- at ang casein kc e galing din sa milk.. or may casein din ang milk. galing sila sa cows milk. so for me, mas ok ang milk vs soyamilk! its up to you if ano gusto mo bro... kaw nman iinun nyan e... hehe.
    Kinonvert ko lang po yung price na nakalagay sa bb.com..

    Ahh powdered milk din po ba? Akala ko po kasi yung mga naka-tetra pack po na gatas eh mas mahal po kasi un sa soya. hehe.. Baket po moderate lang dpat ang pag take ng soy protein? May bad/negative effect po ba sya?

    Okay dahil wla po ako pera ngaun. Bibili muna ako bear brand powder! hahaha

    TNX PO! (:
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    Soya = estrogen = man boobs.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Mas better ang 100% full cream milk like Birch Tree, Nido etc.. kaysa mga gatas like Bear brand at Alaska.
    Ok din naman ang Skim Milk / Low or non-fat milk.

    In my opinion.
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    allen101 wrote:
    Mas better ang 100% full cream milk like Birch Tree, Nido etc.. kaysa mga gatas like Bear brand at Alaska.
    Ok din naman ang Skim Milk / Low or non-fat milk.

    In my opinion.

    Nabasa ko po na 15g protein meron ang bear brand. Okay na din nman po yon diba? Sa presyong P12 po. hehe.. Pero kpag nagkapera ako, nido nman try ko. hehe SALAMAT PO SIR! (:
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    5g protein per serving lang yan
    15g protein yan per 100g powder yan.

    Check mo din ingredients niyan at icompare mo sa mga Full Cream milk.
    It's cheap for a reason.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/nestle-bear-brand-powdered-milk-drink-33-g-200-ml-water-15418409
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    Mrameng ganyan naguguluhan sa nutrition facts, tgnan mo mabuti ang per servings at per 100g,

    Prang isang lata ng coke, 3 servings un pero kala mo isahang inom lng.
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Yup tama, pati nga mga junk foods e. Pang 3 servings pala nakalagay.
    Kala mo tuloy baba ng saturated fat pero x3 mo pa pala yun lol.
  • jTachhjTachh Posts: 41
    allen101 wrote:
    5g protein per serving lang yan
    15g protein yan per 100g powder yan.

    Check mo din ingredients niyan at icompare mo sa mga Full Cream milk.
    It's cheap for a reason.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/nestle-bear-brand-powdered-milk-drink-33-g-200-ml-water-15418409
    Ay oo nga. Salamat po sir! Ano po marecommend ninyo na pwedeng imix with whey? Yung murang full cream milk po??
    daltonkamote wrote:
    Mrameng ganyan naguguluhan sa nutrition facts, tgnan mo mabuti ang per servings at per 100g,

    Prang isang lata ng coke, 3 servings un pero kala mo isahang inom lng.
    Salamat po sir! Protein lang kasi tinitignan ko eh. Di na sinisilip yung serving size. HAHA!
    allen101 wrote:
    Yup tama, pati nga mga junk foods e. Pang 3 servings pala nakalagay.
    Kala mo tuloy baba ng saturated fat pero x3 mo pa pala yun lol.
    Nignatngat ko pa naman yung muncher dito sa bhay. yung green peas na snack. HAHAHA!

    ___________________________________

    SALAMAT PO SA REPLIES NYO MGA SIR! (:
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Hindi naman halos nagkakalayo mga price ng full cream milk.
    Milk Magic, Birch Tree, Nido, Cowhead kahit alin jan bro.
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