^Pasensya ka na sir iba lang kasi dating sakin... nung statement mo.
Dont get me wrong sir I do believe in lifting heavy baka kasi ang akala nyo ako yung tao na "lift light to cut then heavy to bulk" hindi po ganun...
It;s just that for me.. I master the form and dominate the weight first before I increase my lift.. Pero alam ko sir nakulang ako sa MASS ngayon.. I'm just proud that I was able to get back to my weight of 140lbs(na mas lean compared sa unang time ko na reach tong weight na to).. GALING PO KASI AKO SA MATABA DATI....
@Stannis
sir galing po sya sa skinny... ako po galing sa MATABA... naglose ako ng wait dati working out ng more cardio kesa lifting kaya mas payat ako dati sir.. pag may time pakita ko 140lbs(first time) ko dati sa 140lbs(second time) ko ngayon..
alam ko balak mo gradius sa katawan mo, yung dalawang link ni stannis eh kilala nya rin yan sa TPC, mukhang yan ang sinusunod ni gradius eh kasi nag papayat muna then ng pa mass.. lalo na si skinn ng papayat talaga ng todo bago ng pa mass.. well kung yan ang program tuloy mo lang, pero kung ako sayo nagkakakorte na rin ang katawan mo try to mass muna to 160lbs. pero kung gusto mo talaga mag pa cut eto lang masasabi ko sayo try to lift heavy mga 4 - 6 reps, try mo lang.. okies!!
^tama si sir rotrot. Ang hindi ko lang magets sa "Customed IF" mo is anong protocol ginagamit mo? Leangains? Kung leangains may ginagamit yang "carb cycling" kasi may mga hormone kemeplak yang sinusunod not random eating stuff lang brader.
Why not try to do the +0/-20% or +0/-40% system ? Sa tingin ko need mo lang body recomposition at tama sila sir mighty, stannis, at sir rotrot eh need mo pa magbulk at yan ang sinabi sakin nila sir dalton at sir ds nung GWO..
Oo nga nagkamaskels ako , pero kaka caloric deficit at surplus ko minimal maskel gain... eto ngayon mas natuwa ako.. caloric surplus everyday at dun pa lumabas mismo details ng abs ko ( di ganun ka laki pero naghehello na!)
So meaning tama sila, i need to do some mass to get my desired lean body.
Meron akong boss na religious nyang sinunod yung IF Leangains + bill star 5x5 ( yun ang nirecommend ko over SL5x5 hehe ) 191 lbs sya at his 5'1 height tapos currently 171 na sya * he started at January 15 2013.
So he's current lift na nasa 150 + lbs deep squat ( dati nga hindi sya maka deep squat dahil sa laki ng tyan ) so meaning , there's a big difference between lifting light load + high reps vs heavy load + low reps.
Just try it for a week ser, just a week lang walang mawawala.. Supposedly sa 2years lifting experience mo dapat anlaki na ng difference eh... hindi naman sa nagmamagaling o nagmamarunong , nung sinunod ko lang sila well syempre dumating din sa point na matigas ang bunbunan ko , mas nakikita ko gains ko from November 2012 to March current..
And I hate to burst your bubble, but IF leangains is not suited on your workout schedule. Kasi magbebenefit si Leangains sa mga 3-4 a week exercise eh. Not unless gusto mo mag fasted training. Siguro pwede pa sayo EOD o ESE IF.
Well just a thought, pwede pa naman makorek to hehe
INEDIT ko po yung Journal ko baka kasi maconfuse ang marami sa "ALTERNATE EXERCISE" baka kasi ang akalain ng iba lahat yun gingawa ko sa parehong araw.. kung ginawa ko lahat yun hindi magakakasya 1hour kahit na 11/2hr dun..
ALTERNATE EXERCISE ko po dun ibig sabihin variations lang ng training ko para hindi magadapt muscles..
@jettie
Thanks for the advise much appreciated...
Sir yung IF ko I admit hindi talaga leangains kasi eto po sinunod ko...
@stannis
kilala ko po yun si sir dalton at si monch.. sila po ang una kong naging kaibigan sa PBB at sa TPC.. sila po yung tumulong sakin.. Idol din yan si sir dalton in fact sa kanya ko nakita yung IF dati tapos riresearch ko lang..
@MightOak
Believe me sir hindi ako yung tao na "more reps cutting heavy bulking" natutunan ko na po yun before.. in fact yun yung una kong natutunan.. pero I also search other ways to have more gains..
If I will have time I will post my 140lbs before tsaka yung 140lbs ko ngayon... kasi naniwala po ako na mas may gains ako ngayon kesa dating payat ako..@stannis
Sir eto po proof na ayaw ng TMW ng deadlift pero hindi ko po sinunod dahil lam kong ok sya na compound exercise...
@rotrot
I also do 5-6 reps sometimes but I deload kapag feeling ko poor pa form ko to avoid injury.. Nainjured ko na po sarili ko dati kaya i learned my lesson... Tama po kayo si sir dalton una kong nakita sa journal nya yung IF..
Actually leangains gamit nila. I am sure 100% lol. 16/8 ang original nyan si Martin Berkhan unang gumawa nyan, sir memorize ko na lahat ng hodget twins vid. Ganito gawain ko sa petiks mode sa opis ang manood lahat ng mga bodybuilding videos.
Natweak lang dahil minsan 17-20 hrs na nagiging warrior diet 20/4. Kahit anong window pa yan sir. Have you read the whole site ng leangains sir? Na try mo ba sya sir basahin for once? Free lang naman yun, andun lahat.. IF leangains user talaga yang kambal sir hehe.
Well, ikaw yan katawan mo yan.
Sir, di ko talaga magets bakit ka na injured when lifting heavy? Eh safest method yan eh if you know exactly your form. I lift heavy , well di ganun ka heavy pa. Parang sayo ko lang ata nabalitaan yan.
Kasi pag hindi na kaya, unrack na hindi na kelangan ipilit. That's why we have a workout program to comprise the failure lifts para next day we can hit it properly without risking any injuries. Kung kuha mo naman yung first form bakit nawala on the rest reps? Then it means there is something wrong with it.
So kunwari, when I do 240 lbs squats parallel to ATG tapos there is one rep na nakapag half squat ako at possible na it will blew my knees off? Pero malabo yun kasi namemorize na ng katawan ko yung parallel to ATG form dahil ginapang ko yan from empty bar to current lift. So I don't see any problems with it because those forms on our lifts especially compound are all passive na.
@jettie
sir nabasa ko po yung site nyang leangains kay sir dalton pa lang sya nagbigay ng link sakin dati nun...
ang pagkakaiba ng leangains at TMW.. sila hindi gumagamit ng BCAAA before workout..
How heavy I train? eto po ang basis ko.. eto lang po.. kay OMARSF
Di rin ako BCAA user hehe la ko pera pambili nun. Sometimes I train fasted pero kape lang ang peri WO meal ko, sometimes done eating my first meal. Yung second ang madalas dahil time permits me doing fasted training. ( 11am first meal, train on 3pm , PWO meal biggest, small meal last at 7pm)
BCAA is just an optional for training ser, nakalagay naman sa site dba? Hindi lang naman BCAA ang laman ng leangains sir. Dami pa, such as body recomposition, fatloss, lean mass etc. Ang tagal ko sobra binasa ng site siguro 1 week para mamemorize ko ata at nakakasawa na yung bookmark hehe.
Ah napanood ko na rin lahat ng vids nyan ni OmarIsuf. Pero sir dba 2 years ka na sa bodybuilding? Well, kaw yan hehehe basta sakin sir eto lang napansin ko at namin..
@jettie I know sir kulang ako sa mass ngayon... aminado naman po ako.. cutting pa po ako today.. I try to preserve my muscle mass as much as possible..
@Stannis
Sir I don't want to look like an idiot of making it look like I'm not listening to everything that you guys are saying.. I'm just trying to explain what I did.. and from the past I also learned from my mistakes because of actual experience...
Sir monch and sir dalton helped me out last time... and you guys are doing the same thing.. I'm not feeble minded I also help out the best I can and provide links that I have read and watched before.. I just want to finish what I have started first then see later on after dropping to 135lbs what is best for me to do... BUT I KNOW I HAVE TO GAIN MASS... hindi pa po ako tapos sa GOAL ko...
This is my 140lbs before(galing sa mataba mostly cardio without calorie counting) and 140lbs latest photo (IF, counting calories lifting heavy within the range of 8-15 depending on the muscle group and no. of set)
Alam ko sir hindi ganun kalaki ang difference pero I think meron pagbabago compared sa 140lbs ko dati...
sir ang goal ko po ay Protein 40 Carbs40 Fat20 daily kaya lang minsan hindi ko po sya namemeet consistently..
Minsan hirap ako sa protein mga 20% pinakamababa minsan taas ng carbs ko pag workout days..
sir refer to this diary ko ng calories at macros ko sa livestrong yung ibang food dun ballpark figure ng mga equivalent na food na kinakain ko.. estimated pag wala sa database...
I'm not looking to be a POWER LIFTER but in the future after I cut when I start bulking I will also train my strength..
@ LEUCINE
meron sir diretso ka sa link na binigay ko... chinange ko po yung profile ko to public my diary po ako dun..
This is my food diary.. I diligently keep track of my macros and calories...
It's not a exact measurement but at least I have a very good BALLPARK figure..
You're free to browse them, I don't exactly achieve my calorie and macros most of the time but I make sure that I hit them the best I can..
ALL OF THEM say the same thing about HYPERTROPY and I believe them and that's what I believe in..
Hopefully you find time watching it.. You guys can do your own thing, I respect that.. but currently I will stick to this first and see what happens.. CHow
I have far more credible and far more experienced resources in this industry, who most likely was the main source of info by those guys that you're listening to and I'd rather listen to them than some you tube sensation (or are they?).
Sorry sir but i have to agree with sir mighty, you might as well reconsider looking yourself first and restrategized your plan sir.
First you need to consider those gurus on your videos are more leaner on their body, so basically you may want to look first the "beginners" or let say "starters". Try looking for Mark Ripptoe's vids might help you well because you can see some students off all sizes on his video tutorials.
And secondly, you might as well consider those commentaries on the videos, yeah there are a lot of fags putting a lot of shit stuffs but there are few too good to be true comments against their vids.
*for 2 years of lifting uhmm well, it's you. Buti na lang wala pa ko 6months hehehe
I have far more credible and far more experienced resources in this industry, who most likely was the main source of info by those guys that you're listening to and I'd rather listen to them than some you tube sensation (or are they?).
So spare me the lecture.
@Mr. Mighty_Oak
With all due respect sir, i did not even gave you a lecture. I just gave you the details of what I believe in...
I know my body is not comparable to yours but i believe its not proper to go on bragging about your credentials.. or profession.. I'm not gonna go beyond that.. I just hate it when people start talking about "who they are," ("Maniwala ka sakin kasi ganito ako at tignan mo ako") to persuade others, I may not have enough experience yet like yours for I don't do bodybuilding for a living.
I least I don't get butthurt if you dont agree with me, and I don't even say that you're wrong.. I'm just providing you all the information that I have researched...
Pardon me sir: Is that how you do things around here? Just because I have a different opinion or because I don't have the connections in the industry and all that stuff I'm already wrong? Because I'm just providing links for so called you "tube sensations" means they are wrong? Oh come on! I'm not even posting in other section of the thread to persuade other people to believe in me...
Yes I have been doing bodybuidling for two years already I may not have good gains so far but I do listen to my body than anybody else.. It's good sir if you achieved your physique within that span of time, good for you..
All I'm saying is that I'm just being selective of everything people is telling me.. I don't immediately believe in everything they say.. and THAT's ME! I do my homework and workout in the GYM... My belief changes over time because of experience and I'm willing to accept new ideas and approach in bodybuilding...
Well sir it's up to you what to believe in.. and I'm not sure why you're so affected of what I believe in. I don't even spread that info in other threads. I only post it here in my journal.
Wag mo sanang masamain kami dito, kaya nagpopost kami sa journal mo ay dahil ng hihinayang kami sa 2 years mo. At sa kung ano pa ang plano mong gawin.
Ako ng hihinayang, kasi 2 years pero 100lbs pa din bench mo. Eh sa kanto gym dito sa amin na ang nagtuturo ay walang access sa internet dahil sa gym mismo natutulog, ay saglit lang yung 100lbs sa mga tinuturuan niya. Kahit mali pa ang form nila.
Sa tingin kasi namin ay mali ang approach mo, kaya paulit ulit kami na baka sakali ay tanggapin mo ang suggestion namin.
Ito pala sa isang major na napansin ko sayo, sana wag mong masamain.
Sa 2 years mo, pansin ko na walang pinagkaiba yung 140lbs mo dati sa ngayon. Ang problema ay di mo nakikita yung mali sa mga ginagawa mo dahil jinujustify mo sa pamamagitan ng dahil na ganito ang katawan ko, wala akong magagawa.
@stannis
I respect your opinion about your observation in my body..
Well okay then..
Can you please detail your suggestion?
Can you please suggest a customize training program for me?
My specific Calorie Goal and Macros to hit?
Training Split? and Rep Range?
preferably for cutting phase?
"kahit mali form nila" Ito opinyon ko dyan.. if you're forcing yourself to lift heavy more than you can chew then injury prone yan... may mga kilala ako pinipilit magbuhat kahit di nila kaya in the long run nagkakaron ng injury and I don't want that to happen to me.. I have my own shares of injury as well..
@Mr. Mighty_Oak
With all due respect sir, i did not even gave you a lecture. I just gave you the details of what I believe in...
I know my body is not comparable to yours but i believe its not proper to go on bragging about your credentials.. or profession.. I'm not gonna go beyond that.. I just hate it when people start talking about "who they are," ("Maniwala ka sakin kasi ganito ako at tignan mo ako") to persuade others, I may not have enough experience yet like yours for I don't do bodybuilding for a living.
I least I don't get butthurt if you dont agree with me, and I don't even say that you're wrong.. I'm just providing you all the information that I have researched...
Pardon me sir: Is that how you do things around here? Just because I have a different opinion or because I don't have the connections in the industry and all that stuff I'm already wrong? Because I'm just providing links for so called you "tube sensations" means they are wrong? Oh come on! I'm not even posting in other section of the thread to persuade other people to believe in me...
Yes I have been doing bodybuidling for two years already I may not have good gains so far but I do listen to my body than anybody else.. It's good sir if you achieved your physique within that span of time, good for you..
All I'm saying is that I'm just being selective of everything people is telling me.. I don't immediately believe in everything they say.. and THAT's ME! I do my homework and workout in the GYM... My belief changes over time because of experience and I'm willing to accept new ideas and approach in bodybuilding...
Well sir it's up to you what to believe in.. and I'm not sure why you're so affected of what I believe in. I don't even spread that info in other threads. I only post it here in my journal.
Paki basa ng maigi yung mga post ko, asan yung sinabi ko na marami akong credentials at ako ang paniwalaan mo? Kaya tatagalugin ko na kasi mukhang di tayo nagkakaintindihan.
Asan din yung sinabi ko na "Maniwala ka sakin kasi ganito ako at tignan mo ako"? Asan?
Also, I'm not persuading you or rather WE are not persuading you. WE are trying to enlighten you kung ano sana ang mas magada mong ginawa para mas maganda sana ang naging resulta sa loob ng dalawang taon mo na pagbubuhat. Ayaw kita i-compare kahit kanino pero di hamak mas maganda ang results ni Jettie and that was done only in 6 mos. I've seen him in person that's why I can definitely say that.
Iba ang opinyon sa katotohanan (facts) and most of your facts are crooked! Ang sinasabi ko eh di hamak na mas madaming credible na tao sa industriyang ito na sana ay sinundan mo imbes na sa kambal na yan na bilib na bilib ka tapos sasabihin mo na you don't believe in everything people say or tell you? Or you just don't want to hear criticisms from other people because you think you have achieved a lot?
Di mo ba napapansin na hinde lang ako ang hinde sumasang ayon sa mga sinasabi mo? Mag back read ka at tinginan mo kung may sumang ayon ba sayo. So sa tingin mo nakanino ang problema?
Lastly, ganito kami dito. Ganito kami tumulong sa iba, hinde namin i-sugar coat ang mga sasabihin namin para lang di masaktan o maapakan ang ego mo. Magpaka lalake ka. Tama ba na sabihin namin sa isang member na "Wow good job ang galing mo!" When it's actually the exact opposite? Sino kaya ang mukhang tanga nun?
Again huwag kang masyadong balat sibuyas and again hinde na ako mag comment sa journal mo since mukhang madami ka ng alam. Who knows what you will achieve after 2 more years?
@stannis
I respect your opinion about your observation in my body..
Well okay then..
Can you please detail your suggestion?
Can you please suggest a customize training program for me?
My specific Calorie Goal and Macros to hit?
Training Split? and Rep Range?
preferably for cutting phase?
"kahit mali form nila" Ito opinyon ko dyan.. if you're forcing yourself to lift heavy more than you can chew then injury prone yan... may mga kilala ako pinipilit magbuhat kahit di nila kaya in the long run nagkakaron ng injury and I don't want that to happen to me.. I have my own shares of injury as well..
Alam mo habang pabigat ng pabigat ang binubuhat mo, kahit anong "perfect" ng form o technique mo may chance pa din na magka injury ka. That's an absolute truth. Eh di sana hinde na na-associate sa sports ang word na injury di ba?
But if you can't grow some balls to lift heavy, then most likely safe ka nga habang buhay pero hanggang dun ka na lang.
Sinagot na namin ng paulit ulit yang mga tanong mo sa taas pero ayaw mo naman tanggapin ang mga suggestion namin. Kaya bahala ka na.
Palagay ko na post na nila dito yung mga suggestion nila sa program at sa nutrition. Basahin mo na lang ulit in a different perspective.
Kaya ko naman nasabi na mali ang form nila ay dahil di nila alam ang tama from the start, walang kinalaman yun sa bigat ng binubuhat nila dun. Iba pa yun sa nagka injury dahil sa pinipilit ang di kaya.
ok guys. hayaan na natin sya... yun ang gusto nya gawin e! as of now yun ang goal nya... magcut! at wala p cguro sa isip nya maglift ng heavy... in 2yrs tym yun ha! so be it! trial and error nga lng yan diba.... GL nlng syo bro.:sport:
Even on cutting phase you can lift as heavy as you can. Poundage will be lost but minimal due to your minimum caloric intake.
"kahit mali form nila" Ito opinyon ko dyan.. if you're forcing yourself to lift heavy more than you can chew then injury prone yan... may mga kilala ako pinipilit magbuhat kahit di nila kaya in the long run nagkakaron ng injury and I don't want that to happen to me.. I have my own shares of injury as well..
That's why you have to train your form from the [size=large]START[/size] from 0 to your heaviest.. Para [size=large]PASSIVE[/size] na yung form sa katawan mo kahit anong amnesia mo memorize na yan ng katawan mo.. Hindi yan skills o on and off, automatic na sa katawan mo yan.
( yan ah biggie letters na yan para magets nating lahat )
You lift, if it fails then stop, seek help to re-rack. Nasa gym ka marami pwedeng tumulong sayo, not unless iba ugali mo pag nasa gym ka.
As you can see, we're on a internet forum, so basically nagreresearch na lahat ng tao dito kasi nga internet to. So you share your journal and progress, then people will tend to make a comment and shed some insights with regards to your goal. No pun intended bro just purely knowledge sharing, I bet mostly experienced bb'ers or lifters here knows exactly what you've been through and as long as they can shed and give you what do's and donts.
Ako personally, bago ako jumoin dito is 2 months ahead na ako nagstart. I do my own research , SL5x5, IF eat stop eat and leangains method. Walang nagtuturo nyan sa bakal gym, walang may alam dun ng caloric cycle, walang may alam dun ng carb cycling.. Dahil madami dun hosto at marunong pa kay Zeus.
I post here to increase my knowledge, meaning i have to accept some critics and understand what I can redo with my own program and nutrition side here.
Honestly, bago tumaas kilay ko sa mga post nila, binasa ko mga journal ng iba at dun ko nalaman na ganun lang sila magbatuhan ng opinion dahil nga lalake sa lalake eh, di na kelangan mag bolahan not unless fan boy na tulad ni sikant brahh gainnnzzzzz!! So, i take everything what they said, but still it all boils down to me. Whether I accept the new info or make myself an "ASKHOLE" person.
My thoughts lang pre. TPC rin ako, aminin mo yung original thread at early pages dun daming gulo nangyari dba?
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Dont get me wrong sir I do believe in lifting heavy baka kasi ang akala nyo ako yung tao na "lift light to cut then heavy to bulk" hindi po ganun...
It;s just that for me.. I master the form and dominate the weight first before I increase my lift.. Pero alam ko sir nakulang ako sa MASS ngayon.. I'm just proud that I was able to get back to my weight of 140lbs(na mas lean compared sa unang time ko na reach tong weight na to).. GALING PO KASI AKO SA MATABA DATI....
@Stannis
sir galing po sya sa skinny... ako po galing sa MATABA... naglose ako ng wait dati working out ng more cardio kesa lifting kaya mas payat ako dati sir.. pag may time pakita ko 140lbs(first time) ko dati sa 140lbs(second time) ko ngayon..
http://pinoybodybuilding.com/forum/Thread-daltonkamote-CKD-I-F-ON
http://pinoybodybuilding.com/forum/Thread-Skkin-Weight-lose-Bulk-Diet-plan
check mo sir progress nila with in 2 years.
Why not try to do the +0/-20% or +0/-40% system ? Sa tingin ko need mo lang body recomposition at tama sila sir mighty, stannis, at sir rotrot eh need mo pa magbulk at yan ang sinabi sakin nila sir dalton at sir ds nung GWO..
Oo nga nagkamaskels ako , pero kaka caloric deficit at surplus ko minimal maskel gain... eto ngayon mas natuwa ako.. caloric surplus everyday at dun pa lumabas mismo details ng abs ko ( di ganun ka laki pero naghehello na!)
So meaning tama sila, i need to do some mass to get my desired lean body.
Meron akong boss na religious nyang sinunod yung IF Leangains + bill star 5x5 ( yun ang nirecommend ko over SL5x5 hehe ) 191 lbs sya at his 5'1 height tapos currently 171 na sya * he started at January 15 2013.
So he's current lift na nasa 150 + lbs deep squat ( dati nga hindi sya maka deep squat dahil sa laki ng tyan ) so meaning , there's a big difference between lifting light load + high reps vs heavy load + low reps.
Just try it for a week ser, just a week lang walang mawawala.. Supposedly sa 2years lifting experience mo dapat anlaki na ng difference eh... hindi naman sa nagmamagaling o nagmamarunong , nung sinunod ko lang sila well syempre dumating din sa point na matigas ang bunbunan ko , mas nakikita ko gains ko from November 2012 to March current..
And I hate to burst your bubble, but IF leangains is not suited on your workout schedule. Kasi magbebenefit si Leangains sa mga 3-4 a week exercise eh. Not unless gusto mo mag fasted training. Siguro pwede pa sayo EOD o ESE IF.
Well just a thought, pwede pa naman makorek to hehe
ALTERNATE EXERCISE ko po dun ibig sabihin variations lang ng training ko para hindi magadapt muscles..
@jettie
Thanks for the advise much appreciated...
Sir yung IF ko I admit hindi talaga leangains kasi eto po sinunod ko...
@stannis
kilala ko po yun si sir dalton at si monch.. sila po ang una kong naging kaibigan sa PBB at sa TPC.. sila po yung tumulong sakin.. Idol din yan si sir dalton in fact sa kanya ko nakita yung IF dati tapos riresearch ko lang..
@MightOak
Believe me sir hindi ako yung tao na "more reps cutting heavy bulking" natutunan ko na po yun before.. in fact yun yung una kong natutunan.. pero I also search other ways to have more gains..
If I will have time I will post my 140lbs before tsaka yung 140lbs ko ngayon... kasi naniwala po ako na mas may gains ako ngayon kesa dating payat ako..@stannis
Sir eto po proof na ayaw ng TMW ng deadlift pero hindi ko po sinunod dahil lam kong ok sya na compound exercise...
I also do 5-6 reps sometimes but I deload kapag feeling ko poor pa form ko to avoid injury.. Nainjured ko na po sarili ko dati kaya i learned my lesson... Tama po kayo si sir dalton una kong nakita sa journal nya yung IF..
Natweak lang dahil minsan 17-20 hrs na nagiging warrior diet 20/4. Kahit anong window pa yan sir. Have you read the whole site ng leangains sir? Na try mo ba sya sir basahin for once? Free lang naman yun, andun lahat.. IF leangains user talaga yang kambal sir hehe.
Well, ikaw yan katawan mo yan.
Sir, di ko talaga magets bakit ka na injured when lifting heavy? Eh safest method yan eh if you know exactly your form. I lift heavy , well di ganun ka heavy pa. Parang sayo ko lang ata nabalitaan yan.
Kasi pag hindi na kaya, unrack na hindi na kelangan ipilit. That's why we have a workout program to comprise the failure lifts para next day we can hit it properly without risking any injuries. Kung kuha mo naman yung first form bakit nawala on the rest reps? Then it means there is something wrong with it.
So kunwari, when I do 240 lbs squats parallel to ATG tapos there is one rep na nakapag half squat ako at possible na it will blew my knees off? Pero malabo yun kasi namemorize na ng katawan ko yung parallel to ATG form dahil ginapang ko yan from empty bar to current lift. So I don't see any problems with it because those forms on our lifts especially compound are all passive na.
sir nabasa ko po yung site nyang leangains kay sir dalton pa lang sya nagbigay ng link sakin dati nun...
ang pagkakaiba ng leangains at TMW.. sila hindi gumagamit ng BCAAA before workout..
How heavy I train? eto po ang basis ko.. eto lang po.. kay OMARSF
Good luck sir sa goals, silip na lang ako minsan dito, audience na lang kami.
BCAA is just an optional for training ser, nakalagay naman sa site dba? Hindi lang naman BCAA ang laman ng leangains sir. Dami pa, such as body recomposition, fatloss, lean mass etc. Ang tagal ko sobra binasa ng site siguro 1 week para mamemorize ko ata at nakakasawa na yung bookmark hehe.
Ah napanood ko na rin lahat ng vids nyan ni OmarIsuf. Pero sir dba 2 years ka na sa bodybuilding? Well, kaw yan hehehe basta sakin sir eto lang napansin ko at namin..
Have you noticed sir na iisa lang napansin namin?
@Stannis
Sir I don't want to look like an idiot of making it look like I'm not listening to everything that you guys are saying.. I'm just trying to explain what I did.. and from the past I also learned from my mistakes because of actual experience...
Sir monch and sir dalton helped me out last time... and you guys are doing the same thing.. I'm not feeble minded I also help out the best I can and provide links that I have read and watched before.. I just want to finish what I have started first then see later on after dropping to 135lbs what is best for me to do... BUT I KNOW I HAVE TO GAIN MASS... hindi pa po ako tapos sa GOAL ko...
This is my 140lbs before(galing sa mataba mostly cardio without calorie counting) and 140lbs latest photo (IF, counting calories lifting heavy within the range of 8-15 depending on the muscle group and no. of set)
Alam ko sir hindi ganun kalaki ang difference pero I think meron pagbabago compared sa 140lbs ko dati...
mas ok ng mag cut muna,hanggang sa desired goal mo
at mag bulk pagtapos,(fit and healthy)
puede bang malaman ung Macros mo(Protein,CH,Fats)?
[size=xx-large]BE SELECTIVE[/size]
Minsan hirap ako sa protein mga 20% pinakamababa minsan taas ng carbs ko pag workout days..
sir refer to this diary ko ng calories at macros ko sa livestrong yung ibang food dun ballpark figure ng mga equivalent na food na kinakain ko.. estimated pag wala sa database...
http://www.livestrong.com/profile/liquidvamp29/@leucine
I also listen to elliot sir pano po magpost ng videos na ganyan hirap kasi?@leucine
thanks sa link kay elliot
wala ka nung per grams ng macros mo?
That's what I'm talking about Hyperthropy
thanks for the link...
I'm not looking to be a POWER LIFTER but in the future after I cut when I start bulking I will also train my strength..
@ LEUCINE
meron sir diretso ka sa link na binigay ko... chinange ko po yung profile ko to public my diary po ako dun..
eto po ulit yung link..
http://www.livestrong.com/profile/liquidvamp29/
You are so lost my Brother. So in the woods.
Last post in your journal, follow what you believe in.
EDIT: Just saw your pic, but with all honesty nothing changed.
It's not a exact measurement but at least I have a very good BALLPARK figure..
You're free to browse them, I don't exactly achieve my calorie and macros most of the time but I make sure that I hit them the best I can..
http://www.livestrong.com/profile/liquidvamp29/
@Mighty_Oak
We might have different perspective but I respect that bro...
Thanks for your input
This is what I believe in...
And this also...
and this also
ALL OF THEM say the same thing about HYPERTROPY and I believe them and that's what I believe in..
Hopefully you find time watching it.. You guys can do your own thing, I respect that.. but currently I will stick to this first and see what happens.. CHow
I have far more credible and far more experienced resources in this industry, who most likely was the main source of info by those guys that you're listening to and I'd rather listen to them than some you tube sensation (or are they?).
So spare me the lecture.
First you need to consider those gurus on your videos are more leaner on their body, so basically you may want to look first the "beginners" or let say "starters". Try looking for Mark Ripptoe's vids might help you well because you can see some students off all sizes on his video tutorials.
And secondly, you might as well consider those commentaries on the videos, yeah there are a lot of fags putting a lot of shit stuffs but there are few too good to be true comments against their vids.
*for 2 years of lifting uhmm well, it's you. Buti na lang wala pa ko 6months hehehe
@Mr. Mighty_Oak
With all due respect sir, i did not even gave you a lecture. I just gave you the details of what I believe in...
I know my body is not comparable to yours but i believe its not proper to go on bragging about your credentials.. or profession.. I'm not gonna go beyond that.. I just hate it when people start talking about "who they are," ("Maniwala ka sakin kasi ganito ako at tignan mo ako") to persuade others, I may not have enough experience yet like yours for I don't do bodybuilding for a living.
I least I don't get butthurt if you dont agree with me, and I don't even say that you're wrong.. I'm just providing you all the information that I have researched...
Pardon me sir: Is that how you do things around here? Just because I have a different opinion or because I don't have the connections in the industry and all that stuff I'm already wrong? Because I'm just providing links for so called you "tube sensations" means they are wrong? Oh come on! I'm not even posting in other section of the thread to persuade other people to believe in me...
Yes I have been doing bodybuidling for two years already I may not have good gains so far but I do listen to my body than anybody else.. It's good sir if you achieved your physique within that span of time, good for you..
All I'm saying is that I'm just being selective of everything people is telling me.. I don't immediately believe in everything they say.. and THAT's ME! I do my homework and workout in the GYM... My belief changes over time because of experience and I'm willing to accept new ideas and approach in bodybuilding...
Well sir it's up to you what to believe in.. and I'm not sure why you're so affected of what I believe in. I don't even spread that info in other threads. I only post it here in my journal.
Ako ng hihinayang, kasi 2 years pero 100lbs pa din bench mo. Eh sa kanto gym dito sa amin na ang nagtuturo ay walang access sa internet dahil sa gym mismo natutulog, ay saglit lang yung 100lbs sa mga tinuturuan niya. Kahit mali pa ang form nila.
Sa tingin kasi namin ay mali ang approach mo, kaya paulit ulit kami na baka sakali ay tanggapin mo ang suggestion namin.
Ito pala sa isang major na napansin ko sayo, sana wag mong masamain.
Sa 2 years mo, pansin ko na walang pinagkaiba yung 140lbs mo dati sa ngayon. Ang problema ay di mo nakikita yung mali sa mga ginagawa mo dahil jinujustify mo sa pamamagitan ng dahil na ganito ang katawan ko, wala akong magagawa.
I respect your opinion about your observation in my body..
Well okay then..
Can you please detail your suggestion?
Can you please suggest a customize training program for me?
My specific Calorie Goal and Macros to hit?
Training Split? and Rep Range?
preferably for cutting phase?
"kahit mali form nila" Ito opinyon ko dyan.. if you're forcing yourself to lift heavy more than you can chew then injury prone yan... may mga kilala ako pinipilit magbuhat kahit di nila kaya in the long run nagkakaron ng injury and I don't want that to happen to me.. I have my own shares of injury as well..
Paki basa ng maigi yung mga post ko, asan yung sinabi ko na marami akong credentials at ako ang paniwalaan mo? Kaya tatagalugin ko na kasi mukhang di tayo nagkakaintindihan.
Asan din yung sinabi ko na "Maniwala ka sakin kasi ganito ako at tignan mo ako"? Asan?
Also, I'm not persuading you or rather WE are not persuading you. WE are trying to enlighten you kung ano sana ang mas magada mong ginawa para mas maganda sana ang naging resulta sa loob ng dalawang taon mo na pagbubuhat. Ayaw kita i-compare kahit kanino pero di hamak mas maganda ang results ni Jettie and that was done only in 6 mos. I've seen him in person that's why I can definitely say that.
Iba ang opinyon sa katotohanan (facts) and most of your facts are crooked! Ang sinasabi ko eh di hamak na mas madaming credible na tao sa industriyang ito na sana ay sinundan mo imbes na sa kambal na yan na bilib na bilib ka tapos sasabihin mo na you don't believe in everything people say or tell you? Or you just don't want to hear criticisms from other people because you think you have achieved a lot?
Di mo ba napapansin na hinde lang ako ang hinde sumasang ayon sa mga sinasabi mo? Mag back read ka at tinginan mo kung may sumang ayon ba sayo. So sa tingin mo nakanino ang problema?
Lastly, ganito kami dito. Ganito kami tumulong sa iba, hinde namin i-sugar coat ang mga sasabihin namin para lang di masaktan o maapakan ang ego mo. Magpaka lalake ka. Tama ba na sabihin namin sa isang member na "Wow good job ang galing mo!" When it's actually the exact opposite? Sino kaya ang mukhang tanga nun?
Again huwag kang masyadong balat sibuyas and again hinde na ako mag comment sa journal mo since mukhang madami ka ng alam. Who knows what you will achieve after 2 more years?
Alam mo habang pabigat ng pabigat ang binubuhat mo, kahit anong "perfect" ng form o technique mo may chance pa din na magka injury ka. That's an absolute truth. Eh di sana hinde na na-associate sa sports ang word na injury di ba?
But if you can't grow some balls to lift heavy, then most likely safe ka nga habang buhay pero hanggang dun ka na lang.
Sinagot na namin ng paulit ulit yang mga tanong mo sa taas pero ayaw mo naman tanggapin ang mga suggestion namin. Kaya bahala ka na.
Kaya ko naman nasabi na mali ang form nila ay dahil di nila alam ang tama from the start, walang kinalaman yun sa bigat ng binubuhat nila dun. Iba pa yun sa nagka injury dahil sa pinipilit ang di kaya.
Feeling ko eto lang ang argument dito...
"Im not lifting heavy enough" because of doing more than 8 reps
"I need to bulk now" instead of cutting...
well you know what...
I will still cut and stick to my goal first until I reach it..
then I'm gonna bulk after summer end of story..
Not lifting heavy enough, kaya minimal ang muscle. Di dahil sa kinakaya mo ng more than 8 reps.
At ng hihinayang kami sa oras na igugugol mo sa pag cut kasi halos walang magiging difference kaya siguro mas ok na bulk pa.
Good luck ulit, audience na lang ulit ako dito. Silip na lang paminsan.
These lifting stats are for 1 rep max. Attainable within 2 years assuming you train right, eat right and get enough rest
Bench press: body weight x 1.2
Chin-ups or pull-ups: body weight x 1.2 or 8 reps with body weight.
Squat: body weight x 1.6
Deadlift: body weight x 2
^ may naabot ka na ba dyan kahit isa ? kung wala pa, try mo magmuni-muni kung bakit
share ko na lang din, baka sakaling makatulong
http://www.leangains.com/2011/09/fuckarounditis.html
That's why you have to train your form from the [size=large]START[/size] from 0 to your heaviest.. Para [size=large]PASSIVE[/size] na yung form sa katawan mo kahit anong amnesia mo memorize na yan ng katawan mo.. Hindi yan skills o on and off, automatic na sa katawan mo yan.
( yan ah biggie letters na yan para magets nating lahat )
You lift, if it fails then stop, seek help to re-rack. Nasa gym ka marami pwedeng tumulong sayo, not unless iba ugali mo pag nasa gym ka.
As you can see, we're on a internet forum, so basically nagreresearch na lahat ng tao dito kasi nga internet to. So you share your journal and progress, then people will tend to make a comment and shed some insights with regards to your goal. No pun intended bro just purely knowledge sharing, I bet mostly experienced bb'ers or lifters here knows exactly what you've been through and as long as they can shed and give you what do's and donts.
Ako personally, bago ako jumoin dito is 2 months ahead na ako nagstart. I do my own research , SL5x5, IF eat stop eat and leangains method. Walang nagtuturo nyan sa bakal gym, walang may alam dun ng caloric cycle, walang may alam dun ng carb cycling.. Dahil madami dun hosto at marunong pa kay Zeus.
I post here to increase my knowledge, meaning i have to accept some critics and understand what I can redo with my own program and nutrition side here.
Honestly, bago tumaas kilay ko sa mga post nila, binasa ko mga journal ng iba at dun ko nalaman na ganun lang sila magbatuhan ng opinion dahil nga lalake sa lalake eh, di na kelangan mag bolahan not unless fan boy na tulad ni sikant brahh gainnnzzzzz!! So, i take everything what they said, but still it all boils down to me. Whether I accept the new info or make myself an "ASKHOLE" person.
My thoughts lang pre. TPC rin ako, aminin mo yung original thread at early pages dun daming gulo nangyari dba?