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  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    di naman masama ung muscle spasm diba paps?

    actually masama, LOL! hahah! excruciating pain ka kung talagang malala, .
    kumbaga abala lang talaga kasi may parang pain pero di naman serious or dapat din pag alalahan ng husto
    actually abala sa lahat, there came a time na di ako makatayo nang maayos, as in natutumba ako, di rin ako makakilos nang maayos as in konting galaw lang, sobrang sakit.
    most likely san ba o pano nakukuha yan?
    Didn't warm up enough,
    I tried squatting deep that I butt wink ( pelvic tilt) that it strain my lower back maskel
    Tried deadlifting with a not upright body chuchu
    Dahil ba un sa form? o sa mabigat?
    Mostly form, since kung sobrang bigat na nang binubuhat mo, eh masisira na yung form mo.
  • Emman1986Emman1986 Posts: 1,819
    waaahhhh.. mukhang iba nga yang sayo paps.. kasi sakin may pain din at nakaabala rin pero di ako umabot sa time na
    " there came a time na di ako makatayo nang maayos, as in natutumba ako, di rin ako makakilos nang maayos as in konting galaw lang, sobrang sakit. - rtravinno29 "

    ang ma ipapayo ko lang ( ung ginawa ko ) eh nag sauna ako at nag babad ako sa bathub na mainit yung tubig afer nun mga ilang gabi rin eh umalwan na pakiramdam ko. thanks sa info regarding sa ganyang spasm :) ayoko na ulit maranasan yan eh hihihi
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    kaya nga sya di healthy bro as to apektado routine mo sa normal life. Di nga ko nakapasok sa office nun eh hahah! medyo ok ok na rin naman sya ngaun, In fact, Im currently doing goblet squat with 50lbs na nga, hehe!

    wala eh, pinili ko ang larangan na to, literal na pain , sweat and blood binigay ko para sa lifestyle natin na to,

    I may switch to a bb style training again for ( 4 - 6 months gaya nang sabi ni sir vinch ) if walang pagbabago, PL style kase training ko ngayon, baka my body is taking it's toll na rin hehe!
  • Emman1986Emman1986 Posts: 1,819
    un na nga lang.. mahalaga makakabuhat ka ng ayos.. kaya ako never pa ako nag try ng 1RM kasi nakakatakot rin hihihi get well bro
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Just got back to the gym,

    tried doing low bar semi wide stance squat, when I asked the trainer to check my lower back where do I "butt wink" , he told me to narrow my stance AND to place the bar up ( making it the high bar narrow squat) , I tried to tell the trainer that I'm more comfortable with low bar semi wide stance but as per he, squat should hit hams , glutes , etc. but by doing wide stance, as per he, I'm only hitting my outer quads. here's the vid of me doing high bar narrow stance


    also, had the trainer critique my DL form
    here's my form


    and As per the trainer, I need to raise my hips a little high
    here's the vid

  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Good form in general, pero it can still be improved.

    Regarding squats, it makes sense kung bakit pinapagawa sayo is high bar instead of the low bar variation. Masyado kasing hip dominant yung low bar squat which causes a lot of lower back problem especially pag may mga muscle imbalances ka dun or mobility issues. High bar squat is actually a lot better for people with mobility issues, just like me. Try it out, malay mo, yun pala yung form na bagay din sayo. Hindi porke't sinabi sa libro or ng isang guru na ito yung the best, you should also do it. Do what's best for you and not what other's thinks what's best for you.

    Sa deadlift naman, you are losing tightness sa lower back when you go down. That's a no-no. Kung di mo kayang i-maintain yung tightness sa lower back on the way down, mas maigi pa drop mo na lang yung bar. Correct form in lowering down the deadlift is actually the exact reverse of going up. Push the hips back, load your hamstring and glutes while keeping the thoracic spine tight, that way, tight din your lower back and not rounding. Parehas na parehas sa stiff legged deadlift or romanian deadlift.

    Not an expert opinion, pero those were also the same issues as mine kaya na-share ko na rin yung mga ginawa kong modifications/solutions. Hopefully, makatulong in any way. :)
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Sa deadlift naman, you are losing tightness sa lower back when you go down. That's a no-no. Kung di mo kayang i-maintain yung tightness sa lower back on the way down, mas maigi pa drop mo na lang yung bar.

    Im actually dropping the bar sir riddler, hehe! di lang halata at warm up ko lang yan hehe! but with regards with lower back tightness, yeah, I can definitely see that im bleeding my tightness on the descend, actually problema ko yan eh, I can't fee any tightness on the lower back talaga, kahit sa squat, ung lower back din talaga yung problema ko.
  • yopyopmyopyopm Posts: 366
    boss hingi naman technique sa initial lift ng deadlift. Dun ako medyo conscious dahil sa lower back injury hahaha pero once nabuhat na ok na ang reps
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    January 19 2015

    Bench Press
    85.0 x 10
    100.0 x 8
    115.0 x 8
    135.0 x 3
    155.0 x 3
    175.0 x 2 >> was supposed to be 3 reps, felt weak this day..

    Chin Up
    Set 1 : 20.0x8
    Set 2 : 20.0x8
    Set 3 : 20.0x8

    Barbell Bent Over Row
    Set 1 : 110.0x10
    Set 2 : 130.0x8
    Set 3 : 130.0x8
    Set 4 : 130.0x8
    Set 5 : 140.0x8

    Dumbbell One Arm Row
    Set 1 : 40.0x12
    Set 2 : 45.0x12
    Set 3 : 45.0x12

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    Set 1 : 40.0x12
    Set 2 : 40.0x5
    Set 3 : 40.0x12

    Dumbbell Lateral Raise
    Set 1 : 15.0x12
    Set 2 : 15.0x12
    Set 3 : 15.0x12

    Done!

    boss hingi naman technique sa initial lift ng deadlift. Dun ako medyo conscious dahil sa lower back injury hahaha pero once nabuhat na ok na ang reps

    Di ko get brader, hehe! panong technique?
  • asggeloasggelo Posts: 76
    Stance should be shoulder length.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Stance should be shoulder length.

    depends, kung san ka comfortable, In my case, narrower stance leads to my knees buckling, so semi narrow yung stance ko. Also as you can see, the technique that actually helped a lot for me to break inertia from the floor is to LEAN BACK ( while doing this, I'm sure that the bar is as near as it can be to my shins,) and use leg drive, once past knee na yung bar, that's where my lower back and hips take over,
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Update ##

    wasn't been able to work out yesterday, sobrang antok ko, wala pa kong tulog and galing pa ko Laguna deretso work. So instead na mag work out and having a high risk of getting injured, nagpahinga na lang sa bahay..

    also a rant..

    I ordered PM7 sa lazada last January 6, AND up until now, wala pa rin yung package.
    bwakanang ina, every week na lang ata kami natawag ni isme, lageng sagot samin eh ico coordinate daw nila sa logistics nila and babalikan kami after 24 - 48 hours. Up until now, wala pa rin, isang malaking taena talaga. di na ko nakatiis, umorder na lang ulet ako sa core nutrition, in order ko nang umaga, hapon nasa akin na yung package.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    January 23 2015

    Deadlift
    115.0 x 5
    145.0 x 5
    175.0 x 3

    215.0 x 5
    245.0 x 3
    275.0 x 1

    220.0 x 5

    Barbell Front Squat
    Set 1 : 95.0x8
    Set 2 : 95.0x8
    Set 3 : 100.0x10
    Set 4 : 100.0x10
    Set 5 : 100.0x10

    Leg Press
    Set 1 : 180.0x12
    Set 2 : 180.0x12
    Set 3 : 230.0x10

    Leg Extensions
    Set 1 : 135.0x15
    Set 2 : 135.0x15
    Set 3 : 165.0x15

    Seated Calf Raise
    Set 1 : 90.0x15
    Set 2 : 90.0x15
    Set 3 : 90.0x15
  • Sir penge namang tips dyan kung pano mo napa liit yung love handles/ oblique area mo. Thank you :D
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Sir penge namang tips dyan kung pano mo napa liit yung love handles/ oblique area mo. Thank you :D

    diet bro and being consistent on working out, :)
  • mak016mak016 Posts: 68
    rtravino29 wrote:
    Update ##

    wasn't been able to work out yesterday, sobrang antok ko, wala pa kong tulog and galing pa ko Laguna deretso work. So instead na mag work out and having a high risk of getting injured, nagpahinga na lang sa bahay..

    also a rant..

    I ordered PM7 sa lazada last January 6, AND up until now, wala pa rin yung package.
    bwakanang ina, every week na lang ata kami natawag ni isme, lageng sagot samin eh ico coordinate daw nila sa logistics nila and babalikan kami after 24 - 48 hours. Up until now, wala pa rin, isang malaking taena talaga. di na ko nakatiis, umorder na lang ulet ako sa core nutrition, in order ko nang umaga, hapon nasa akin na yung package.

    Balak ko din dyan bumili! Buti nalang!Haay.dito nalang din ako bumili sa pbb eh.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    Balak ko din dyan bumili! Buti nalang!Haay.dito nalang din ako bumili sa pbb eh.

    wag mo nang pangarapin brah na bumili sa Lazada, pangatlong beses na tong na delay, last na to, di na mauulit, LOL!
  • yopyopmyopyopm Posts: 366
    @rtravino29 hahaha naexperience ko rin yan sir.
    December 24 order.
    December 29 nasa 2go na.
    January 3 update sa scanner nila january 3 palang ang status na for delivery sa bahay,

    sa mismong logistics na ko nagpafollowup. tinawag ko sa 2go di rin nila alam bakit wala na update lol. sa awa ng diyos, january 9 natanggap ko naman na.
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    @yopyopm

    haha! di na sya nakakatuwa, ok lang isang beses mangyari sakin, pero 3rd time na eh, binigyan ko sila nang benefit of the doubt thinking na baka yung mismong nagbebenta ung may problema, pero wala eh, tumawag ako kanina, pinaparefund ko na lang ung binili ko,.January 24 2015

    OHP
    50.0 x 5
    65.0 x 5
    75.0 x 5
    90.0 x 3
    100.0 x 3
    115.0 x 3

    Pull Ups
    Set 1 : 10
    Set 2 : 10
    Set 3 : 7

    Barbell Incline Bench Press ( +45 lbs )
    Set 1 : 70.0x10
    Set 2 : 70.0x10
    Set 3 : 80.0x9

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
    Set 1 : 12.0x12
    Set 2 : 13.0x12
    Set 3 : 13.0x8

    Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension
    Set 1 : 40.0x15
    Set 2 : 45.0x15
    Set 3 : 45.0x15

    trap bar farmers walk
    180.0 x 2 rounds ( bumigay na grip ko,.. nyeta)

    Done!
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    January 25 2015

    Squat
    45.0 x 10
    95.0 x 10
    115.0 x 8
    125.0 x 8
    150.0 x 5
    150.0 x 5
    120.0 x 8
    # felt good but not great as to I'm still trying to find my groove on my new set up

    Reverse hyper extension
    Set 1 : 20.0x12
    Set 2 : 20.0x12
    Set 3 : 20.0x12
    Set 4 : 20.0x10

    Cable Triceps Pushdown 1
    Set 1 : 120.0x12
    Set 2 : 120.0x12
    Set 3 : 120.0x12

    Dumbbell Bicep Curl
    Set 1 : 30.0x10
    Set 2 : 30.0x10
    Set 3 : 30.0x10

    Done
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    January 26 2015

    Bench Press

    85.0 x 10
    95.0 x 10
    115.0 x 8
    125.0 x 3
    145.0 x 3
    165.0 x 5

    Chin Up
    Set 1 : 25.0x8
    Set 2 : 25.0x6
    Set 3 : 25.0x6

    Leverage Shoulder Press
    Set 1 : 25.0x12
    Set 2 : 35.0x12
    Set 3 : 40.0x8

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    Set 1 : 40.0x12
    Set 2 : 40.0x6
    Set 3 : 35.0x10

    Dumbbell Lateral Raise
    Set 1 : 15.0x12
    Set 2 : 15.0x12
    Set 3 : 15.0x12

    Barbell Bent Over Row
    Set 1 : 110.0x10
    Set 2 : 110.0x10
    Set 3 : 100.0x10
    Set 4 : 120.0x10
    Set 5 : 140.0x12


    Prowler
    Set 1: 3.0 Lap

    Done!
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    January 29 2015

    Deadlift

    115.0 x 8
    145.0 x 6
    175.0 x 5
    175.0 x 5
    175.0 x 5
    175.0 x 8

    Barbell Overhead Squat ( 45.0 lbs. bar)
    Set 1 : 0.0x8
    Set 2 : 0.0x8
    Set 3 : 0.0x8

    Barbell Front Squat
    Set 1 : 95.0x8
    Set 2 : 95.0x8
    Set 3 : 100.0x10
    Set 4 : 100.0x8
    Set 5 : 100.0x10

    Leg Press
    Set 1 : 180.0x12
    Set 2 : 200.0x12
    Set 3 : 200.0x15

    Leg Extensions
    Set 1 : 135.0x15
    Set 2 : 165.0x15
    Set 3 : 165.0x15

    stomach vacuum
    90-Degree Vertical Plate Press

    Done!
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    January 30 2015

    OHP
    45.0 x 10
    65.0 x 10
    75.0 x 5
    95.0 x 5
    105.0 x 2
    105.0 x 3

    Barbell Incline Bench Press (+ 45 lbs.)
    Set 1 : 70.0x10
    Set 2 : 80.0x10
    Set 3 : 80.0x10

    Pull Ups---->>> added 2 more sets and lower down the volume, over all ,satisfied naman sa outcome
    Set 1 : 8 Rep
    Set 2 : 8 Rep
    Set 3 : 8 Rep
    Set 4 : 7 Rep
    Set 5 : 3 Rep

    Dumbbell Bench Press
    Set 1 : 40.0x10
    Set 2 : 45.0x10
    Set 3 : 50.0x10
    Set 4 : 50.0x10
    Set 5 : 55.0x10

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
    Set 1 : 12.0x12
    Set 2 : 13.0x12
    Set 3 : 14.0x8

    Dumbbell Standing Triceps Extension
    Set 1 : 45.0x15
    Set 2 : 50.0x12
    Set 3 : 50.0x12

    Plank
    Set 1 : 00:01:00
    Set 2 : 00:00:30
    Set 3 : 00:00:30

    Stomach Vacuum

    Done!
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    February 5 2015

    Deadlift
    133.0 x 5
    153.0 x 5
    180.0 x 3

    195.0 x 5
    225.0 x 5
    255.0 x 5 >> pr on reps, not sure with the form, felt good but medyo nag aagam agam ako, feeling ko bibigay na likod ko. Next time, I'll make sure na may mag vivid para sa form check.

    Barbell Front Squat >> really like this, I am more upright and I can definitely say na it's working for me. Since this is just a accessory exercise, I'm thinking of making this my main lift and making back squat as accessory,
    Set 1 : 95.0x10
    Set 2 : 100.0x10
    Set 3 : 100.0x10
    Set 4 : 100.0x10
    Set 5 : 100.0x10

    Leg Press
    Set 1 : 180.0x12
    Set 2 : 200.0x15
    Set 3 : 200.0x15

    Leg Extensions
    Set 1 : 135.0x15
    Set 2 : 170.0x15
    Set 3 : 170.0x12

    Seated Calf Raise
    Set 1 : 90.0x20
    Set 2 : 90.0x20
    Set 3 : 90.0x20

    trap bar farmers walk
    80kg x 4 rounds.

    Done!
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    Mas friendly talaga sa lower back yang front squats, same with the goblet squat. Anterior kasi yung load eh instead of the back squat which is posterior. Only con for the anterior loaded squat is you can't use as much weight compared to it's posterior variant. Watch out for your thoracic spine though as the load gets heavier. Yan ang common pitfall pag bumibigat na.

    Mas maganda sanayin mo yung clean grip kesa dun sa bodybuilder grip to keep the upper back tight. It will magnify some wrist mobility issue though. Haha! :)
  • bro try mo yung farmers walk na ganito... 5 steps, drop, 5reps DL, 5steps, drop, 3repsDL, 5 steps, drop, 1rep DL, 5steps, drop
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    5 steps, drop, 5reps DL, 5steps, drop, 3repsDL, 5 steps, drop, 1rep DL, 5steps, drop

    anong tawag dito sir vinch? ok to ah?

    may tinuturo sakin yung trainer dun sa eclipse, parang ganito din, pero more on bodyweight after farmers walk / prowler (push up, burpee etc) . di ko sinunod at nawawalan ako nang hangin nung tinry ko. next session ko nang trap bar gawin ko to, problema ko lang sa trap bar eh bumibigay grip ko, nag try akong gumamit nang strap, pero dumudulas naman. Pero I think sa set na ganyan, makakarami ako .
    Mas friendly talaga sa lower back yang front squats, same with the goblet squat. Anterior kasi yung load eh instead of the back squat which is posterior. Only con for the anterior loaded squat is you can't use as much weight compared to it's posterior variant. Watch out for your thoracic spine though as the load gets heavier. Yan ang common pitfall pag bumibigat na.

    Mas maganda sanayin mo yung clean grip kesa dun sa bodybuilder grip to keep the upper back tight. It will magnify some wrist mobility issue though. Haha!

    wala rin palang kawala sa troracic spine, hahahaha! pero pareho lang ba benifits nang dalawa ?

    # clean grip pala gamit ko jan sir orly, flexible naman wrist ko, feeling ko laking tulong nang clean grip para maging upright ka,
  • riddlerriddler Posts: 1,018
    rtravino29 wrote:
    Mas friendly talaga sa lower back yang front squats, same with the goblet squat. Anterior kasi yung load eh instead of the back squat which is posterior. Only con for the anterior loaded squat is you can't use as much weight compared to it's posterior variant. Watch out for your thoracic spine though as the load gets heavier. Yan ang common pitfall pag bumibigat na.

    Mas maganda sanayin mo yung clean grip kesa dun sa bodybuilder grip to keep the upper back tight. It will magnify some wrist mobility issue though. Haha!

    wala rin palang kawala sa troracic spine, hahahaha! pero pareho lang ba benifits nang dalawa ?

    # clean grip pala gamit ko jan sir orly, flexible naman wrist ko, feeling ko laking tulong nang clean grip para maging upright ka,

    Benefit ng alin? Front squat vs back squat? Or front squat vs goblet squat? Yung anterior load squats, more effort sa quad, less sa glutes and hamstrings, vice versa dun sa posterior. Kung front squat at goblet squat naman, mas easier version lang ng front squat yung goblet squat. For progression sake lang actually yung goblet squat. It's the easiest squat variant to teach for beginners especially pag may mga mobility issues.

    The best talaga sa front squat yung clean grip if your mobility allows it. Pag hindi kasi tight yung upper back mo, mag-slide yung bar away from your chest/shoulders which will put all the load on your arms/wrist. Masakit yun at very harmful sa wrist. So it's a good way to counter-check if you are keeping your thoracic spine/upper back tight. The moment na nag-slide na yung bar away from your shoulders, alam na! Hehe! :)
  • rtravino29rtravino29 Posts: 1,549
    ? Yung anterior load squats, more effort sa quad, less sa glutes and hamstrings, vice versa dun sa posterior.

    ahh eto pala... salamat dito sir orly!
  • pauso ko lang yan bro wala ako tawag dyan. ok ba farmer walk with rice planting? LOL
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