Workout?

Do you guys do cardio before you workout or after? And which is more effective Isolation workouts or compound? :)


- Mike Jyzz
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  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763B-Class
    0 cardio. Tho I am doing some basic stretching and preparing for Tricking martial arts.

    As for the ISO and Compound, I don't think i called it "effective", I'd say personal choices. I mean , they're both good , they do have both pros and cons but I find compound suited on my lifestyle, why? I can't do every day workout day. I am good with MWF compound exercises like SL5x5, SS, 5/3/1, RPT setup with my line of work + personal reasons because of schedule conflicts.

    Again, it's a matter of personal preferences. For me compound works on my body. That's it. I never trained any iso on my biceps, delts, chest, triceps etc. I really really rely on the compound exercises and I religiously following my program and hoping to finish it before switching up to something new.
  • mike_jyzzmike_jyzz Posts: 100
    Jettie wrote:
    0 cardio. Tho I am doing some basic stretching and preparing for Tricking martial arts.

    As for the ISO and Compound, I don't think i called it "effective", I'd say personal choices. I mean , they're both good , they do have both pros and cons but I find compound suited on my lifestyle, why? I can't do every day workout day. I am good with MWF compound exercises like SL5x5, SS, 5/3/1, RPT setup with my line of work + personal reasons because of schedule conflicts.

    Again, it's a matter of personal preferences. For me compound works on my body. That's it. I never trained any iso on my biceps, delts, chest, triceps etc. I really really rely on the compound exercises and I religiously following my program and hoping to finish it before switching up to something new.


    thanks for the info,. Yeah alot of peopel dont have the time to workout. So if you dont workout your biceps triceps and chest what do you do? Bench press hits chest right along with delts and triceps? That your workout sir? :)

    By the way post some pictures naman sir/
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763B-Class
    I do have my journal here sir, i even post lots of numbers pictures and everything.

    I'm doing the RPT split ( I don't know the exact term but the big 3 were distributed on days )

    Again, I ain't no pro or intermediate lifter, just a newbie trying to learn a lot but i find my set up sutied on me. so bear with my journal sir.
    Here's mine : Jettie's Paradigm Shift
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    I don't do cardio like treadmill, burpees, stationary bicycle, etc. 'cause I have to go home early(limited time).

    But indirectly i'm doing cardio in my superset and dropset. =) and I found it more "nakakahingal" than doing 50reps of burpees. =)

    Yeah, i'm a newbie too so i'm experimenting right now for the isolation and compound exercises. But my goal is hyperthropy so I concentrate more in isolation than compound to have focus in each of my muscle groups..
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565B-Class
    @mike when you talk about effectiveness are you pertaining to muscle growth?
    jopetot wrote:
    Yeah, i'm a newbie too so i'm experimenting right now for the isolation and compound exercises. But my goal is hyperthropy so I concentrate more in isolation than compound to have focus in each of my muscle groups.

    I hope you're not serious about this.
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    ^He is.
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565B-Class
    for real? :P
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    Wala naman akong sinabing wala akong compound exercises like deadlift, bp at squats :p
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    ^eh hinde naman yun ang tinatanong sayo ni DS. Sarili mong statement di mo maintindihan?
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    lol
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565B-Class
    That's not what i'm concerned about, since when did isolation movement became more superior to compounds when it comes to packing muscle on any frame?

    While i do believe isolations has its place in training, doing "heavy" compound lifts for hypertrophy is far more beneficial than just doing isolations. Why?

    1. it will trigger to release more natural occurring "growth hormone" in our body. since the heavier load that we can lift on compounds compared to doing common isolation movements. remember muscle is the "defense mechanism" of our body from the "tension" we apply to it.And growth hormone is one of the hormones responsible for muscle growth aside from testosterone. So the more tension we apply to our bodies the more GH our body will release to cope w/ the "threat" it experienced during a heavy and intense training session.

    2. Since you will need to recruit more muscles in doing compounds the more mictotears you will have in various parts of your body and were are back again to my first point about GH release. do i need to say more? :)
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    Kailan ko sinabi sir na mas nakakahigit ang isolation sa compound? =)

    Yan po ang workout ko.. :p at gumagana sa akin..
  • allen101allen101 Posts: 5,102
    Hayaan niyo na, gumagana naman pala sa kaniya e, sabi nga if aint broke, don't fix it.


    Anyway, picture naman jan... ng GWO ah, sumama ka ba?
    jopetot wrote:
    I don't do cardio like treadmill, burpees, stationary bicycle, etc. 'cause I have to go home early(limited time).

    But indirectly i'm doing cardio in my superset and dropset. =) and I found it more "nakakahingal" than doing 50reps of burpees. =)

    Yeah, i'm a newbie too so i'm experimenting right now for the isolation and compound exercises. But my goal is hyperthropy so I concentrate more in isolation than compound to have focus in each of my muscle groups..
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    ^lolz para saan ang picture? gusto mo makita mga taba ko? hahaha
  • daltonkamotedaltonkamote Posts: 3,629
    jopetot wrote:
    ^lolz para saan ang picture? gusto mo makita mga taba ko? hahaha

    kala ko lurker ka nalang? hindi mo din mapigilan? hirap pigilan yang pag tatype lalo na kung keyboard warrior ka.....
  • Mighty_OakMighty_Oak Posts: 3,940
    Pasyahan nyo na ng hinde na humaba pa ang walang kwentang usapan.
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    mga lolz talaga kayo mga broceps :-) keyboard warrior pang nalalaman lolz :D tama si Sir might! Hndi ako nagumpisa rito :p
  • JettieJettie Posts: 3,763B-Class
    Dear kayosama,
    Sana po pag nag 34 years old na po ako di na ko katulad ng majimboo magisip... or kulang sa himas..

    Tenk yu po
  • DSmallDivideDSmallDivide Posts: 4,565B-Class
    ^^

    read again your response that i quoted from your post in page 1. And I never said you are NOT doing any compound lifts and not you DON'T have any compound lifts in your program. what i'm trying to get at is you have no idea what is the purpose of doing compound and isolations in a certain program (there i said it). And your statements defnitely mislead many newbies so that's why "WE" always question it.

    Well if that what works for you i wish you good luck to your goals (or should i say kiss your goals goodbye?) LOL!
  • jopetotjopetot Posts: 183
    Thank you sir for the advice. Well believe it or not Sir I can see the results.
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